ok... just had the relays off and they looked a bit grubby/greeny so cleaned them and the sockets... is there a way of testing them?
just tested;
negative to starter: read 12v(engine off)
negative to alternator: read 12v(engine off)
my assumption from this is that the wiring is all ok, is this a fair assumption?
potentially it could be shorting at some point and still read 12v, correct?
going to clean up the bat terminal but cant see that i would get the 12&14v readings if a poor connection was causing trouble... grrrrrrrrrrrr..........help!