Different gear boxes

[Jezza-7]

Is there any other gearboxes that fit to the block?

I once was told that a mk3 golf box can fit.

Has anyone ever tried any other boxes?

I saw a pic of a lancia delta box and it looked very very similar.

[djtez]

it would be interesting to know ..

these cars listed.. all share the same clutch..

so would be interesting to see if any the box's bolt up !

Lada 110 111 112 Kalina
Opel Ascona C 1.6D
Opel Astra F 1.7D
Opel Kadett E 1.5TD, 1.6D, 1.7D
Vectra A 1.7D
Seat Arosa 1.4 16V
Seat Cordoba 1.4 16V, 1.6
VW Caddy II 1.4, 1.4 16V, 1.6
VW Golf III & Vento 1.6
VW Lupo 1.4 16V
VW Polo 1.3 G40
VW Polo 6N 6N2 1.4 16V, 1.6, 1.6 16V & GTI

[Jezza-7]

I know that the 6n dont fit. I had one and was different.

I see the golf is mentioned so maybe it could be bolted on?

[Andy]

6N fits, but if it's cable-change you need to grind the mechanism mount off the back of it.

02K series from the Golfs supposedly fits, but I've never tried it and have no idea if it's any stronger.

[AlexG40]

The mounts are gonna be quite different on a lot of them too.

[Andy]

And starter motor location, and driveshaft location!

[djtez]

I wonder if any are a worthy conversion?

if the starter motor was to still line up ok with the flywheel,
and the driveshaft location was to be close enough if not slightly higher in the bay so that on lowered motors the shafts would be more horizontal.

i think jezza mainly asking purely cause of strength !

like me is thinking ahead for the G60 conversion, all the torque and horror stories of the box's blowing to bits and shafts and CV joints disintegrating.

[Nick_S]

Is there any other gearboxes that fit to the block?

I once was told that a mk3 golf box can fit.

Has anyone ever tried any other boxes?

I saw a pic of a lancia delta box and it looked very very similar.

Only the type 085 mk3 golf gearboxes fit (essentially a Polo 6N gearbox) and hence not any stronger.

This topic has actually jogged my memory about a conversation I had a while back with a friend of my dads who used to own a breakers yard back in the day. He swore blind you can get Austin Maestro/Montego gearboxes to fit the old polos. I just took it as idle gossip, but......

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUSTIN-MAESTRO-MONTEGO-GEARBOX-4-SPEED-1-3-1-6-/150505873368?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item230ad95fd8

[Jezza-7]

Looks very similar and better as the starter is at the front!

Do the VR6 golf's have a different gearbox then?

[Andy]

The mule Maestros were VW Jettas, thought it was a big block 'box that they'd bought the designs to not an 085?

[Oli b]

it would be interesting to know ..

these cars listed.. all share the same clutch..

so would be interesting to see if any the box's bolt up !

Lada 110 111 112 Kalina
Opel Ascona C 1.6D
Opel Astra F 1.7D
Opel Kadett E 1.5TD, 1.6D, 1.7D
Vectra A 1.7D
Seat Arosa 1.4 16V
Seat Cordoba 1.4 16V, 1.6
VW Caddy II 1.4, 1.4 16V, 1.6
VW Golf III & Vento 1.6
VW Lupo 1.4 16V
VW Polo 1.3 G40
VW Polo 6N 6N2 1.4 16V, 1.6, 1.6 16V & GTI

i take it all these boxes carry the 200mm clutch plate ?
all the boxes that have a 190mm clutch plate standard will work the release bearings are different but swapable between boxes

[Puncharado]

The mule Maestros were VW Jettas, thought it was a big block 'box that they'd bought the designs to not an 085?

This is my understanding also, if my memeory is corrrect a bloke at work fitted an MG Maestro 'box to his mk2 Golf some years ago. I'm not sure if it was 100% straight on though.

[djtez]

id love to find out there was another box option to fit the polo block..

a stronger box would solve alot

[Oli b]

Saw this today in the scrap yard a mk3 golf with a small block engine 1.4 and what looks like a big block gear box was rather puzzled by it



??

[djtez]

hmm indeed .. i dont know what box that is ..

but on a note, been doing some searching and there are options for us

Sorg Motorsport a while back done a Conversion plate.
to use Bell housing from 085 and the 02a box.

and there are also polo coupe Diesel Shafts available too.. im just tryin to see about CV joints.
Seems so far G40 Joints are the only different ones..