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Offline SteG40

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Re: Engine Damage Pics
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2009, 12:35:44 pm »
It hit nearly 8k for second or so, anyway engineering place has had a look today and both inlet and exhaust valves are bent they also reckon something has got in there. I'm guessing you can't by single exhaust valves for a big valve head so I'll have to get a set from jabbasport I think.

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Re: Engine Damage Pics
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2009, 12:43:46 pm »
jabbasport might sell them individually, you'll have to phone them I guess.  I'm sure they used to list them individually on their old site before the recent refresh.

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Re: Engine Damage Pics
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2009, 12:57:44 pm »
depends what the big valves are from and who I suppose.

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Re: Engine Damage Pics
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2009, 01:01:43 pm »
jabbasport usually make the 31mm ones.  That's what is in my head too.

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Re: Engine Damage Pics
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2009, 02:19:38 pm »
Valves shouldnt bend from over revving it, unless with all the revs and no load on your engine the piston has hit the valve. The valves should be well up to those revs. A lot of engines rev to well over 10k without particularly special valves. Plus over revving tends to cause valves to drop rather than bend.

Check the rods for length and the big end bolts for stretch.

Detonation usually occurs in long hard 4th gear up hill pulls etc rather than a quick launch. Especially in a polo where launching it puts relatively little stress on the engine due to a lack of traction.

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Re: Engine Damage Pics
« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2009, 03:07:43 pm »
with hydraulic tappets and standard valve springs on these heads you are risking valve float much above 7k rpm. 

Although I'd guess if something has got in there then it was big enough to get stuck between piston and valve and bend them.

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Re: Engine Damage Pics
« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2009, 03:21:32 pm »
True, im not sure what effect excessively bouncing valves tends to have. I dont think they would bend though?

Im not sure how anything would get in there thats big enough to do that, I have heard of spark plugs disintegrating but im guessing that hasnt happened. Cam belt not jumped a tooth? I suppose there would probably be damage on other cylinders.

I have never had much to do with OHC hydraulic tappets/lifters, do they ever pump up and cause interference?

I would pull the piston/rod out for sure and check the ring lands/rings and the big end bearing/bolts. Then measure the deck height when its back together and compare with the other cylinders.

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Re: Engine Damage Pics
« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2009, 10:06:16 pm »
Ste are you 100% sure the spark plug is still in one piece?

If a ring has dead and come into the cylinder then i would expect to see some scuffing around the bores of the cylinders.

something has gone through that intake system so its just a matter of trying to find what has come loose!

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Re: Engine Damage Pics
« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2009, 10:59:36 pm »
Jabba only does the bigger exhaust valve, isnt your- inlet valve bigger--? inlet is the one on the left right? or on BVH's do they only make a bigger exhaust valve?

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Re: Engine Damage Pics
« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2009, 10:24:27 am »
Could a part have broken in the charger and made its way in there?

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Re: Engine Damage Pics
« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2009, 05:21:30 pm »
Bingo look whats missing


how do you get in there to put a new bolt in?

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Re: Engine Damage Pics
« Reply #41 on: August 08, 2009, 10:16:17 pm »
pop rivot it

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Re: Engine Damage Pics
« Reply #42 on: August 08, 2009, 11:11:59 pm »
What are those 4 bolts in the butterfly for?

If the butterfly bolts to the shaft then you can probably just unscrew it and take it out to fit the bolt, if it slides through the middle of the shaft then you probably cant. If you get what im saying.

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Re: Engine Damage Pics
« Reply #43 on: August 09, 2009, 01:04:53 pm »
That explains it !

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Re: Engine Damage Pics
« Reply #44 on: August 09, 2009, 01:07:33 pm »
ah ha! knew it wasn't det damage!