Lysholm supercharcher

Started by samuel.cole, September 03, 2013, 02:18:49 PM

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z3i

That looks like a dam good idea! Put an inline water seperator on there and boom

Jezza-7

Would never be able to sort the water problem out as the heat from the block/pipe would cool and form very small water droplets as it hits the cool metal of the charger.

z3i

Cool metal on the charger? Mine gets so hot you cant touch it!!

PeteG40

From what ive seen rothelle and max rpm porting is nothing like a good full blend or r1 or g werks not as ported

Jezza-7

Mine never gets got. My air filter is down the front bumper so no heat soak at all.

z3i

Quote from: Jezza-7 on September 09, 2013, 07:12:13 PM
Mine never gets got. My air filter is down the front bumper so no heat soak at all.

Hmm this is worrying, think mine soaks up alot of heat from the exhaust? Maybe my ppp one will give more clearance?
Maybe a mixture of, decent intercooler, seperate oil feed, oil cooler and relocated air filter keeps yours nkce and cool? Must make a bjg difference on performance and seals lasting longer, my bay has always got stupid hot, sometimes the water gauge gets too 100degrees, thought ive now fitted a lower temp stat

z3i

Maybe the rotthelle  could produce more boost with porting?

Jezza-7

My water rarely goes above 90, unless im queuing up for santa pod lol.

RyanC

Pete so ur saying a well maintained full blend is just as good as a g45 from maxrpm? Maybe a bit more boost from the 45 but not alot?
I guess u could pull it apart a port it more but u wouldn't really want to after spending £800 on it lol
I think ill keep with my full blend and see how it goes can always change another time if I get bored one weekend  ;D

Justin14100

Quote from: Jezza-7 on September 09, 2013, 12:56:03 PM
Justin, the G60 engine lubricates the charger from the top of the rocker cover and was thinking that if you drilled into the G40 rocker cover, make an adapter to fit, run a hose from that to the inlet of the blanked charger that way you retain the "lube" properties and can keep the oil going in, rather than ptfe. Reckon it would work the same as the G60? Plus you can stop the hot air from recirculating.

Could you not just use that adapter and use an extended pipe from the regular oil breather system at the back of the block on a G40?
The only other issue with the G60 is where the oil feed / return is positioned, from what I remember it's not ideally placed when its on the PY block to G60 charger mount and adapter.

If you want big power from a G-Lader its got to be either G60 with a 68mm toothed setup or a G45 on a 65mm toothed.
I think reliability knowledge has come on leaps and bounds compared to the old PSD days, things where experimented, disasters happened and now we know whats good / bad.

My dream is to have a PY block with a G60 lader. It'd be so sweet.

RyanC

All sound fun but do u think the box would handle it? And what People say g60s don't like the faster revving 1.3 and smaller pulleys but I guess know one has tried it so No one can say really I think it would work both a g60 and 45 obviously more power from the 60 but the 45 if u can get good boost from it then I think u could see 200 maybe a tad more g60 210+?

Jezza-7

Quote from: RyanC on September 09, 2013, 10:36:39 PM
Pete so ur saying a well maintained full blend is just as good as a g45 from maxrpm? Maybe a bit more boost from the 45 but not alot?
I guess u could pull it apart a port it more but u wouldn't really want to after spending £800 on it lol
I think ill keep with my full blend and see how it goes can always change another time if I get bored one weekend  ;D

Remember it has a G60 scroll inside it though which will aid to a bigger increase of airflow. The outlet only has 3 fins as well.

Jezza-7

Quote from: RyanC on September 09, 2013, 10:50:30 PM
All sound fun but do u think the box would handle it? And what People say g60s don't like the faster revving 1.3 and smaller pulleys but I guess know one has tried it so No one can say really I think it would work both a g60 and 45 obviously more power from the 60 but the 45 if u can get good boost from it then I think u could see 200 maybe a tad more g60 210+?

There are a few who have tried it. Fella from portugal has done it, few from germany and im sure there have been 2 people from uk that have done it as well.

68mm pulley is a good size for the G60. Almost everyone runs that size.

G45 would make i reckon between 190-200bhp and G60 would make between 210-220bhp.

G75 is where its at lol.

PeteG40

Quote from: Jezza-7 on September 09, 2013, 11:12:32 PM
Quote from: RyanC on September 09, 2013, 10:36:39 PM
Pete so ur saying a well maintained full blend is just as good as a g45 from maxrpm? Maybe a bit more boost from the 45 but not alot?
I guess u could pull it apart a port it more but u wouldn't really want to after spending £800 on it lol
I think ill keep with my full blend and see how it goes can always change another time if I get bored one weekend  ;D

Remember it has a G60 scroll inside it though which will aid to a bigger increase of airflow. The outlet only has 3 fins as well.

Saying you'd want to give them some well ported 40 casings to ensurr you got best ported g45 back

z3i

There must be a reason they done port it on the fancy system when they make then