bearings and seals are over priced

[tdh-syorks]

after stripping my charger down and tidying it all up its now time to re build, i was looking on the net and i called a few places in order to get new seals and bearings etc, the prices i was quoted were extorsionate so i booked everything in through work and got everything for less that 20 quid, they also had most of it in stock, the only thing i had to order were the apex seals as they only had 40 inches in stock. gotta be one of the cheapest re builds ever. first time i've ever done one but its not that difficult really, the hardest part so far was trying to remove the charger from the car. i'm following this article which was put on here some time ago and i don't think you can go wrong from it to be honest

http://www.matey-matey.com/g60-rebuild-article.shtml

back to the topic tho, i think that as soon as you look to buy anything automotive they rape you on the price.

cheers Tom

[PeteG40]

what bearings did you get tho? brand etc?

the compound of the apex seals is also essential. too hard and will wear your charger away, too soft and it'll make a fine paste to grind your charger apart!

[tdh-syorks]

they were exact replacements mate, the bearings are made by FAG and the seals are the right compound, they are exact same, only differance is they don't have the VAG number on the seals, i use seals and bearings at work everyday so i know a bit about them,

cheers Tom

p.s pete still ok if i ask for your help if i get stuck rebuilding??

[hayesey]

where did you get the specs of the original bearings and seals from though?

[tdh-syorks]

the ones i took off which were origional, the charger had never been done before. i've got a FAG spec book at work with all the bearings made by FAG inside, the ones i removed from the charger were also made by FAG, that bit was easy, as for the seals i took them down to the shop with the spec sizes i wrote down out of the book and just to be sure i took a printed add i found on the net which had the correct seal part numbers on, all the bearings are a standard size which most bearing shops should stock on the shelves. ill post the add up with the seal part numbers on which i got, basically all i did was remove a bearing, read the part number, look it up in the FAG spec book and just double check the bearing to the book by using some vernier calipers.

http://www.rp-motorsport.de/en/g-lader/g40-parts.htm

cheers Tom

[G-spot]

I've bought oil seals of this guy, very reasonable,
https://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/index.php

[PeteG40]

bearings are the easy part to source to be honest!

[polo classic]

the seals are the right compound, they are exact same, only differance is they don't have the VAG number on the seals, i use seals and bearings at work everyday so i know a bit about them,

cheers Tom

p.s pete still ok if i ask for your help if i get stuck rebuilding??

What make are the seals? I've found that with NAK and Simrit seals, the chargers just spit them out.

Theres a lot more to it than just what meets the eye. The combination of heat, acceleration, oil pressure and boost pressure puts a lot of strain on the seals.

I only use Goetze and QPH seals in the chargers I rebuild for that reason.

[tdh-syorks]

thats them mate goetza, only problem i noticed today is that the smallest of the seals is the wrong grade and wont last 2 mins in there. the others are fine tho, as i said exact replacements.

[polo classic]

The one on the exhaust/outlet side of the charger?

[tdh-syorks]

yeah thats the one, just thinkin tho, technically it should be ok.

[Fred]

 
 Any chance of listing all the bearing and seal part numbers Tom.
 I have to rebuild my charger and it will be my 1st time so getting
 the right bits is essential.
 I have a Bearing factors local to me and possibly will get them trade.
 I`ll take it that the Apex seals are the sealing strips that go in edge
 of the scroll & if so where did you buy those?

 Regards, Fred.

[tdh-syorks]

yes mate no problem,

BEARINGS
6002 RSR C3  x1
6003 RSR C3  x1
6304E C3  x1
NU202E  x1
10-6960  x1

the C3 fit means they will expand slightly under the tempreture to make sure there's no play in the race. all these bearings are manufactured by FAG, but i'm told if there not available SNR make equal quality ones.

 
SEALS
A 08211/18  x2
A 08307/01  x1
A 006207/05  x1
A 08227/04  x1

the apex seals are the strips that seat into the scroll, these come in strips of 40 inches,
i ordered 5 of these just to be safe,

APEX SEALS
A008216/10  x5.

i also ordered a new belt aswell which they had in stock, tho no part number was given with this.

hope this helps you out,

Cheers Tom

[PeteG40]

fag bearings are available if you look.... the centre bearing usually used is a rna4905 - i use an iko and often the pulley side is just a 6304.c3   then E means a different cage.... but gladersiete just supply standard cage.

the belts we sell for £6 - optibelts


ps fred, your charger looked quite freshly serviced, and looked a full blend

[tdh-syorks]

pete,
what grease do i use for the apex seals?

cheers Tom