gaz coilovers rally design

[mario-g40]

read here about the gaz coilovers from rally design for 462+vat do you have to send old front studs to them?are they the same as the ones phil sells on here?no pic on site rally design

[Jezza-7]

Dont go to rally design. If you search for gaz on here you will find some info about them.

Yes you have to send the front struts off as they retube the cases on the front and lower the steering arms.

GAZ direct do it for £500 + vat, thats everything where as im sure rally design dont weld the struts on etc.

[mario-g40]

problem is iam selling my kw v1 inox line thats now under the car find it way to hard its realy not worth the money they charge for it

[hayesey]

Dont go to rally design. If you search for gaz on here you will find some info about them.

Yes you have to send the front struts off as they retube the cases on the front and lower the steering arms.

GAZ direct do it for £500 + vat, thats everything where as im sure rally design dont weld the struts on etc.

surely if you order "Gaz" coilovers then they are Gaz coilovers made by Gaz no matter whether you buy them direct from Gaz or through a reseller such as Rally Design?  Are you suggesting that RalDes are just getting the parts from Gaz and making the coilovers themselves?  

Mario - why don't you just buy some softer springs for your KWs then?  That's the whole point of coilovers, you can set them however you want them.  Rally Design do a whole range of 2.25" springs in various lengths and poundages and they are usually less than £20 each.

[dub-disaster]

problem is iam selling my kw v1 inox line thats now under the car find it way to hard its realy not worth the money they charge for it

another reason your ride may be very hard is if your car is very low your not likley to have much if any bump travel before the bump stop in alot of cases you will be on the bump stops which can give a realy harsh ride

[mario-g40]

i know but the rear ones need new rubbers bushings one schock is leaking ithink  if you screw them higher the day after its droped again now cant get higher no more thread.would it be possible to send the struds to gaz for new inserts

[Jezza-7]

If you get them from rally design you get just the coilovers, nothing else. Whereas gaz make them up for you, its an extra £35 and gaz told me that was a trade price too.

[hayesey]

I'm not sure what you mean by that, 'just' the coilovers??  What else do you get from Gaz?

[Jezza-7]

Rally design dont weld them to your struts unlike gaz direct.

You pay Gaz (£35 difference) to put the coilovers to your struts, retube them etc. Rally design dont offer this.

[hayesey]

dont weld what to your struts? I'm confused, the coilovers are the struts.  Are you saying that if you buy from RD then you have to basically make the coilovers yourself and they just give you an insert, threaded tube and a spring?

[Jezza-7]

The coilovers are have bigger tubes than the normal ones so the re sleeve them and weld them. RD dont do anything except give you the kit then you have to re-sleeve them your selves and do what welding needs welding. Plus the steering arms get lowered.

Just what gaz told me last year.

[dub-disaster]

Think there is some confusion on this. Rally designs sell a coilover "kit" which consists of a threaded tube some sring seats etc etc to suit and then you get your own springs this is a diy kit as i belive hayesey has, rally designs also sell gaz coilovers wich are produced by gaz and rally desings add 10% and sell them to you.
gaz direct will cost you £550 PLUS VAT plus £12 delivery. Although the price will and probably has gone up with price of steel and everything else in life !! I know because i bought a set about 2 months ago you also need to buy or send your struts in this will cost about £20 thetr still cheap but not as cheap as ghey first appear.
One more thing worth mentioning is they will supply with with a short piston 4" and a 1.6" progressive bump stop to stop you have no bump travel they will supply 275lb springs which means youve got 2.5" of static droop and a couple of mm before the bump stop. just thought it was worth mentioning to any one who cares as i have now become obsessed with trying to get a decent road set up for my suspension and 1" of bump travel all of which is in the bump stop is not acceptable for me it will lead to a very firm ride on crappy roads. Although huge amounts of bump are not required i think at least 1" of bump prior to the stop is much better and what ive got as i specified much longer pistons and much longer springs this also allows me to run a little softer than  275 as i can have more static droop due to more tavel. This set up how ever doesnt lower the car more than about 10mm and they lowered my steering arms to suit a -30-35mm ride hieght although i will rectify this once i have refined which springs suit my road setup best .
One final option is i specified mine with a gaz gold 22mm hardened piston shich is more hardy than the usual 20mm but it means that you do away with the rebound dampening adjustment which is fine by me as i can send them back to be revalved any time i want and its one less thing for me to fiddle with !!
Just thought id share what j have learned for any one considering them.

[hayesey]

I think that's bollocks (edit - aimed at what Gaz have told Jezza).  Yeah you can buy such a kit from RD (it's what I bought for my coilovers, costs something like £50) but they also sell Gaz coilovers as in fully assembled, ready to bolt to the car kit that they just resell from Gaz.  I think they've lead you on there since they'll be making more money from you than if you bought through RD.

There's no way RD would sell something described as  "Gaz GHA Coilover suspension for a mk2/3 polo" if it was really just a kit of their conversion bits.  

Gaz told me that you can't even buy inserts because they are wet shocks assembled into struts when they are made which means it'd be basically impossible to do what they've told you.

[Jezza-7]

This is what i was told last year by both

RD said:

Hi
Yes, GAZ will need your front struts to modify to coil overs.  The kit will be about 5x weeks as its a special order.  The price will be £595.00 plus vat

GAZ said:

We make a fast road coilover kit for the G40, but you will need to send us donor units as we retube the cases on the front and lower the steering arms. This kit will cost £500 + vat and carriage

[hayesey]

ok so more expensive from RD anyway but I'd still say that's for the same thing.