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Club G40 => General Car Chat => Topic started by: matthg40 on July 03, 2017, 02:09:17 pm

Title: G40 value
Post by: matthg40 on July 03, 2017, 02:09:17 pm
I'm reluctantly thinking of selling my g40 as I need something more reliable as I can't keep up with the maintenance and work needed to keep it on the just wondering how much it's actually worth and where's the best place to advertise it to get the best value for it.its certainly not the best g40 out there but it's also not the worst out there either.ive spent a lot of money and time and effort on it aswell.
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: hayesey on July 03, 2017, 03:29:35 pm
somewhere between £500 & £5000.  More information is needed to say anything else.
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: matthg40 on July 03, 2017, 04:24:50 pm
What kind of information are we taking I know my post was brief but I'm just curious really I'm reluctant to sell my g40 but it's 26 years old now and could really do with something abit more reliable as I've had it nearly 11 years and maybe change is needed sadly.
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: hayesey on July 03, 2017, 05:28:39 pm
I think the main thing now that differentiates a £500 car from a £5000 is the state of the bodywork.  Obviously stuff like the charger service history too.  But it's G40s with straight bodywork that are getting harder to find so are the ones worth more.
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: matthg40 on July 03, 2017, 06:13:25 pm
Mine just has a few Tesco car park dents in which aren't from me as I've kept mine off the road.its rust free,have all the receipts for the supercharger service history and important service work so it's not a bad little car.its not the best but it's not the worst out there that's for sure
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: SamG40 on July 03, 2017, 10:02:30 pm
Mileage, service history, general condition, mods/originality. All play a part in the price. Whats broken and needs fixing, whats just been replaced. The usual stuff.
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: matthg40 on July 04, 2017, 09:40:27 am
I knew mileage and service history played a big part in any car value I guess the dents in mine could be the issue with mine really.
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: ereeiz on July 04, 2017, 10:13:21 am
Answer the following to give people a better idea and more accurate value (off the top of my head so a bit of a random order);

1. Year/reg?
2. Colour?
3. Sunroof model?
4. Original or donor?
5. Standard or modified?
6. Modifications;
A. Body (e.g. removed arch kit)
B. Suspension/drivetrain (e.g. FK coilovers with PPP stage 3 subframe)
C. Engine (e.g. 1341cc accralite pistons, balanced crank)
D. Interior (e.g. Corrado seats)
E. Misc.
7. MOT due? Did it pass last MOT without issue? Do you anticipate anything needed for next MOT if it's due?
8. Mileage?
9. Any work need doing to it?
10. Service history? If not, why not, if yes, when is it up to?
11. CHARGER history. No one wants to buy a car with a rattly old charger about to pop.
12. Original G40 gearbox (ATV code).
13. Anything else I forgot!
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: matthg40 on July 04, 2017, 11:37:51 am
1.H reg 1991
2. Black
3. Sunroof doesn't work can fix if needed
4. Original logbook and sticker in boot as proof
5. Engine modified chassis standard
A.arch kit and trims present
B.lowered 60mm all round
C.standard 1272 block with other modifications
D.standard g40 interior
E. R1 supercharger
    Gt Inlet manifold
    G60 golf ralle injectors
    Ported,polished and had flowed throttle body
    Smaller belt and pullies
    Cosworth front mount intercooler
    Jabba sport stage 2 performance chip
7.11 months mot left and had got through last 3 mots woth no faults.
8.134,000 but had engine with 87,000 but no proof sadly
9.needs bodywork dents removing,sunroof fixin
10.vw service history up until I owned the car then I have always done the service work and kept reciepts of parts needed.supercharger serviced 7 years ago but car hasn't been o. The road for 5 years due to health car has only done 4 miles in 5 years.
12.original g40 gearbox on the car
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: Yoof on July 04, 2017, 02:19:22 pm
Sills, rear arches, battery tray and chassis legs. Condition of these for me is most important, other engine parts are bolt on, and whilst can be difficult to find, they're fairly cheap when you do.

Proper repair work to the body is costly, and given the age of cars a quick fix & bodge 15 years ago, will more than likely require a full on multiple panel replacement and respray - equal or exceeding the value of the car in most cases.

If it's an honest car which just needs TLC, then start the bidding at 3k, but be prepared to take something around £2600-£2700 for it.

There are very, very few cars which would command near £5k - G40s are often worth less than the sum of their parts!
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: kwijibo_coupe on July 04, 2017, 04:44:23 pm
I'd always say a genuine G40, that is MOT'd ready to drive away is worth at least £2k-2.5k all day long. Mainly because they should fetch that in parts if it turns out to be a right dog. Condition, servicing, modifications and general health will play a big part in deciding if it is worth more or less than that.
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: Jester on July 04, 2017, 05:58:15 pm
Pretty interesting thread, the prices of these are all over the place recently.. but I guess it's down to what someones willing to pay as there's not usually enough for sale at the same time to compare them.

I think most buyers these days are just the ones interested to see if they're any quick...not actual enthusiasts so sadly the prices aren't going to be high.

If yours has passed it's last 3 MOT's fine and has barely moved how is it costing you too much to run? they're cheap to insure and tax isn't THAT extreme for the age.
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: matthg40 on July 04, 2017, 08:22:23 pm
I meant it's cost me to much to run over the years I've looked at the reciepts I've spent over the years and I could of paid a deposit on a house by now.its scary how much I've actually spent on that car let alone the graft blood sweat and tears aswell.
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: randombadger69 on July 05, 2017, 08:56:17 pm
Surely not worth selling now then for £2.5k; after all that investment!

That's how I look at it.

What really fucks me off is trying to get an agreed valuation on a heavily modified/nut and bolt restoration. Insurers do a quick google; find only one for sale, then base the value of yours on the price of that.

If it was a mk1 golf gti; they'd easily agree a value north of 5k for a good one, because there's always half a dozen for sale between 5-10k.
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: matthg40 on July 05, 2017, 09:25:21 pm
After the comments I've got there is no way I'd sell for 2.5k I've got a shed for of spare parts half an engine plus body panels and all sorts.its my pride and joy but it has never been the most reliable car but what do you expect for a 26 year old car.but that's why I love it because I can always tinker with it and try to improve it.i guess you lot have made up my mind for me
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: randombadger69 on July 06, 2017, 10:16:09 am
Good man!

The beauty is; if the headgasket goes; you can have it replaced in a day comfortably. If you get a modern car and the same happens; it's an utter ball ache usually.
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: matthg40 on July 06, 2017, 11:00:22 am
That's a fair point I've done head gaskets in a few days.just need to service my supercharger and my 40 should be good for another couple of years.
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: physicsfool on July 06, 2017, 11:12:43 am
I dont want to throw a spanner in the works, but it depends if you still have the desire to maintain and drive an older car. There is no shame in selling up for something newer. But in terms of a small quick car that is easy to maintain its the ideal candidate. But rememeber you know this car top to bottom, buying something else puts you back to square one. But I enjoy starting a new project. Unfortunate that its value hasnt followed other similar aged car.

I would say your car is worth 3-3.5k if you are willing to wait for the right person that appreciates all the time and effort you put in
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: ereeiz on July 06, 2017, 12:44:33 pm
HiC do agreed valuations for reference! I think I had to pay an extra £12 or something and submit an inventory of everything non standard.
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: matthg40 on July 06, 2017, 10:35:51 pm
The problem I have is what do you swap a g40 for?a nippy little hot hatch and there isn't much about at the minute with character and performance like a g40 as regards to a newer car.ive looked at an Audi s3 and the bloke in the showroom said stick with the polo the audis aren't that great and you have to spend a lot to get power out of them and I tend to agree.i love my car it's my pride and joy at the end of the day
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: ereeiz on July 07, 2017, 11:10:55 am
I agree 1000000000000000000000% Everything after about 1995 is bland, rounded, boring, quiet, assisted, safe, damped, yawn. I honestly prefer to drive my ratty old shitbox £500 GT than I do new Range Rovers. I'm lucky enough to drive them as I work there but I find it the same of any modern car from any manufacturer. The closest I got was an Ibiza 160 diesel but I remember moaning like fuck about that for a year when I got it because it was too modern and assisted.

Trouble is, everything is hampered by safety and ease of use nowadays, I can rant for days about this. Completely understand all the reasons why, etc and don't disagree as 99% of the world just want commuter boxes, or super fast cars that require no skill to drive as it'll save you if you brake 3/4 the way through a wet corner because you don't know how to drive....... I like the excitement, the feedback, the ability to be able to see all around with my own eyes as opposed to cameras and mirrors and the fact that if I push too hard on the middle pedal, I'll lock up, if I don't steer correctly I can crash and die because it's a 30 year old mild steel car designed 50 years ago. It all adds to it for me. The smell too, you don't get the smell of half burnt fuel on modern cars because, you know, they run properly hahahh.
Title: Re: G40 value
Post by: matthg40 on July 07, 2017, 11:48:00 am
Plus you cannot work or get access to new cars engines without having to take off all the plastic and sound proofing most of them require you to now take them to the main dealer to now have them serviced or worked on which is abit of an I'm more than happy with my car and proud to be an owner of my g40.