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Offline Thomas

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Re: my black stielheck
« Reply #90 on: July 30, 2011, 01:42:42 pm »
How about watercooled IC.
Any hints about this?

I think i will seperate the waterkooling inbetween the head and block/bottom.

Adding an extra pump just for the head itself.

Do you guys think its nessesary to have 2 seperate rads in this setup.?

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Re: my black stielheck
« Reply #91 on: July 31, 2011, 06:10:58 am »
Hi, Thomas,

You just need a good air-to-air FMIC. The wathercooled sistem is good for high horsepower cars that havent good air-flow to the IC (for exaple - dragsters: for good start and and rally cars made for tight tracks with hard corners and some off-road machines). The other negative side of the wather IC is the complicated system - IC, wather rad with fan, wather thank, wather pump, tubes and electrics... do You have enough space for this???

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Re: my black stielheck
« Reply #92 on: July 31, 2011, 06:23:37 pm »
Yeah, I agree with Doc here.
Watercooled systems are excellent but complicated, expensive to buy/install and do take up a fair amount of room.
I'd go for a good FMIC. The intercoolers themselves are cheap to buy and there are plenty of different sizes and shapes to choose from.

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Re: my black stielheck
« Reply #93 on: August 02, 2011, 12:43:10 am »
Hi
A late update to this subject at night.
Today I will take down the front and begin to modify this so that I can fit an intercooler model "great" to this car.
Likewise, the radiator will be replaced with a larger and an extra waterpump must be added on.
Will take down the manifold and wrap this due to thermal radiation.
Then, the generator have a review and an additional tachometer output is taken out from the coils inside.
A lot of effort that will definitely have an effect.
The turbo is now in the hands of turboservice.se in the hunt for more effect and power, is up to them to find the solutions.
Perhaps these will come onboard as sponsors of this project aswell, which I would think is great when it obviously need a massive modification, we'll see.

What this will give, we shall see, but it is quite clear that it will get better.

What color is concerned, it is now leaning to a white pearl for those of you who are wondering.

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Re: my black stielheck
« Reply #94 on: August 07, 2011, 08:25:00 am »
Hi
Now I have probably found a setup on the work regarding CV joints and driveshafts, etc.
These are always a issue on a polo with power as you know.
Used a Golf 16v as a reference here.

The car was assembled yesterday chassis wise.
The car is of to the paintshop during the next week so it must be possible to move on the wheels.

The job today is to take down genertor and fix W output for tachometer must now also begin to work with the interior and some other things.

Now the J-spec sent down an intercooler, so this will be in next week.
thomas
« Last Edit: August 07, 2011, 08:30:34 am by Thomas »

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Re: my black stielheck
« Reply #95 on: August 07, 2011, 09:36:27 am »
Very interested in the driveshaft upgrade. Can you let us know any more details on this Thomas?

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Re: my black stielheck
« Reply #96 on: August 07, 2011, 01:16:07 pm »
Yes of course.
As soon as the setup is tested and so on.

Keep looking!

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Re: my black stielheck
« Reply #97 on: August 22, 2011, 09:24:38 pm »
Hi
Some new pics!!!!







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Re: my black stielheck
« Reply #98 on: September 06, 2011, 09:41:13 am »
Some new pics.








Was thinking of using these, but i changed my mind...... ;)



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Re: my black stielheck
« Reply #99 on: September 08, 2011, 07:04:16 am »
Hi
Now I have spoken to my new sponsor Swedish turbo service again who said that the turbo was ready for pic up.
They had apparently turned inside out of everything in this job.
They had spoken to pro´s in England and Germany to get more information about what's to be done and what would be good, whats fun to hear is that they had never heard anything like this during his years in the industry, either here in Sweden or abroad.
It´s fun that the car makes such interest from the most experienced people in the industry.
I must say I really like everyone´s engagement to get involved in the project.

The turbo is now in base an Schwitzer (Borg-Wagner) units, but we have retained the exhaust housing from the previous Garret aggrigatet becuase we wanted to see how much a special processing of this would bring.

Exhaust house has now been modified significantly.
The shaft has been replaced and the diameter of the turbine wheels changed,  the turbine wheel has trimed wings on them for increased flow and power.

Happily it is now turbo good for 200 diesel horses and more  ..... :)

See pictures below:




















You can see that it's right clever processed in the exhaust housing and the compressor side.
Today, i will get a new return piping from the turbo as we now have a different connection than before.
After that a tachometer goes in the car with a shift etc.
We'll see where I put this, there's not really much space in the cabin as you probably know already. :)

Thomas

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Re: my black stielheck
« Reply #100 on: September 11, 2011, 10:52:43 am »
Hello again.
Now it has happened stuff i think you should know.
We have been on Kinnekulle raceway and with the help of a talented driver who now works as a driver instuctor within just racing i belive we couldent get a better tryout on the car.
 
Peter had fixed the ring completely to ourselves, which is an incredible feeling just that.
Think about it, we got at a race track all to ourselves ...  ;D
Many thanks Peter.

Peter Lundrgen from Götene Motorclub has thus been the one driving the car.
The car behaves consistently and very well on a track according to Peter.

Peter ran around the ring as the best at 1,10:52.
Which I think is good.

For reference, I can say that it is faster than orginalcup Volvo's cars run on the ring, and when they're built to run on racingtrac with weigth reductions and tuned chassis, etc.
We have a std car more or less, this is Very impressive in my eyes.

But something was wrong with the car, the effect did not occur so it could not bring better times.
 
This was on Friday and on Saturday, I talked with my filter provider.
Guess my suprise when he says that the filter attached to the car "just now" leave X liters of air / minute, it takes more than twice as much air .....
The filter povided was for a petrol instalation NOT Diesel.....WTF

This worked then as a restriction and we could only get maximum 1.2 bar then filter imploded
together and as they say put the lid on it.
The effect were about 80bhp measured by G-Tech on Saturday morning.
No wonder the car smoked, the car was so black in the ass so we had to wash the car before driving home.

Take it away, i will send the correct filter to you next week.
Said and done.

I did it and Holy shit ...............
Sure the car was good before but now it is a monster.
The effect is brutal.
It's just so that tires can keep the power down on third and fourth gear.
Turbo charger keeps going on with ease throughout the registry and the  increase in speed is more or less linear.
No turbo dip at all under free acceleration.

I guess that the effect now is 160-180 hp.
This is now to be confirmed on the dyno again.
Temp problems are blown away both the exhaust and water and oil temp is laying still.

Will come back with a real report later.
With this effect, and a minor update to front so I can say that the car is probably running around the ring in under a minute. And it's fast
This is an incredible car.

Peter will write a report later this week about how he feels the car.
He is, however, independent and used to run cars on trac.

See you soon then with pictures and some video if you want .......

Thomas


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Re: my black stielheck
« Reply #101 on: September 11, 2011, 01:17:05 pm »
Excellent progress Thomas, more pics and definately a video are wanted!
It really sounds like this is coming together now, should be a torque monster once it's finished. 8)

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Re: my black stielheck
« Reply #102 on: September 19, 2011, 06:32:41 am »
Here is some new pics.
Some of them from kinnekulle raceway.






















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Re: my black stielheck
« Reply #103 on: September 24, 2011, 10:08:57 pm »
Hi.
Was up on the dyno again today.


Only 2.7bar pressure.
and i know it holdsup to 2.9 bar boost.
That would have give us 174bhp.

So project 250% power increase project have reached its goal.

Thomas

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Re: my black stielheck
« Reply #104 on: October 01, 2011, 10:01:11 am »
Hi
Just a new pic.



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