Informing the DVLA of conversion

Started by gavin.starr, June 13, 2011, 12:06:30 PM

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gavin.starr

How do i go about informing the DVLA of my converted bready? Do they have to do some checks on it to see if it has been done correctly or not begause the engine uses the exact same mounts.

Also where do i find the engine number because im sure they will need that to update the v5 logbook, and how much is it going to cost.

Gav

samg40

Engine number is on the right hand side of the block below the thermo housing. You may need to rub some crap off it to see it.

All I did when I converted mine was put the new engine number onto the V5 when I sent it off. Never heard anything back.

Etches

I wouldnt bother when you can just insure it as a different engine, saves the hasstle and is legal. Sure there was a massive thread on CP about this iicr

Puncharado

My mate changed the engine number and fuel type on his logbook after an engine swap, I don't remember him having any grief with it. I'm not sure if the had to pay anything though. I'll ask him.

Either way, where the bloody DVLA are concerned I've found it's always best to fill in any forms/logbook sections as needed, take copies, and write a covering letter with a brief explaination of what you want.

AlexG40

I just changed the engine number and cc on the log book. I'm sure they changed the rules lately though. Might be worth not declaring.

gavin.starr

is there any way of checking what the rules and regulations are regarding engine conversions, I want to do it properly as I don't really fancy getting a fine.


hayesey

this looks like the sticking point, this didnt used to be the case, you used to just be able to return the old v5 with the new engine number on and that was it:

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DVLA will need written evidence of any changes to engine number and cylinder capacity (cc). Written evidence can be:

a receipt for the replacement engine

written evidence from the manufacturer

an inspection report provided for insurance purposes

written confirmation on headed paper from a garage if the change in engine size took place before you bought the vehicle


gavin.starr

So basically I cant do the engine conversion myself, it has to be certified by a garage to say its safe for road use.

ereeiz

I remember reading that when I converted my golf whenever that was (2004-05? Sometime round then anyway). i never did anything about it, but I assume if anyone else has done it since then and had no problems then I'd assume it's still the case.

If you do need it checked, you just need to get a garage to check it over to make sure you haven't sellotaped the engine in and it's safe to use, etc. I'm sure any MOT station would be fine as they'd be an accredited person in the eyes of the DVLA.

hayesey

Quote from: gavin.starr on June 14, 2011, 09:58:04 AM
So basically I cant do the engine conversion myself, it has to be certified by a garage to say its safe for road use.

no, just pay a garage to do an inspection report after you've done it.  Worst case is they'll charge an hours time, best case is just a few quid on a saturday for one of the lads to just write it out

Puncharado

I don't think a garage inspection is anything to do with the quality of the conversion, it's just to confirm that the engine fitted is what you say it is.

And my mate didn't have to pay the DVLA but he did need a letter from a garage. He works at an Audi dealers so did it himself!

genesisGT

unless they have changed it in the last 2 years, you just change the V5 and send it to DVLA for the price of a few stamps then they send it back with the new details on it. (photo copy it before you send it) and tell your insurance company and you fill in a modified vehicle form.

mine was a 1L squareback so i put in the PY00***** engine code etc and the 1272cc and changed the model to "Polo G40 Genesis" as vw called the purple ones that. so DVLA recognise it as a model.

only thing is some websites that need your regi number for parts etc still recognise it as a 1.0L.

and my loon GT conversion was the same.

no garage checks or crap your pants stuff like that.

only thing they dont seem to like is if you put a 1.0L in a car that was a 1.3 from the factory, as they see it as underpowered and dangerous.

hayesey

it has changed in the last 2 years, read the link above.  They now need some kind of evidence provided with the returned v5c document.

Last time I ever did this was a few years ago and it was just a case of sending the form back on it's own then.