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Technical => Superchargers / G-Lader => Topic started by: XRrich on March 08, 2013, 06:05:39 pm

Title: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: XRrich on March 08, 2013, 06:05:39 pm
Hi,
I bought another spare charger a few weeks ago, just for the crack (got it for cheap luckily)
I took it apart today and cleaned to inspect and found this

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/laluk_22/Charger002_zpsb3f90103.jpg)
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(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/laluk_22/Charger001_zps95c10085.jpg)

Shall I add it to my spares pile or would it still be ok to run as a whole charger

Thanks
Rich
Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: PeteG40 on March 08, 2013, 06:43:13 pm
That is totally shagged. Is it pulley or outlet casing?looks like only... Shame got spare outlet.. But one pulley side needs some repair on the drain
Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: XRrich on March 08, 2013, 06:59:01 pm
Its the pulley side with timing belt etc
Yeah bit of a shame
What needs doing to the drain?
Would be nice to make a full charger
Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: z3i on March 08, 2013, 08:41:51 pm
How would one manage to do that to their charger? do g laders just blow up when they feel like it?
Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: xandyx on March 08, 2013, 09:38:31 pm
There's a guy here in Portugal, who is also a user on this forum that can fix that!

I know it might be cheaper to get that part second hand, but his job is really amazing, you almost can't notice that it was broken before.

Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: PeteG40 on March 08, 2013, 09:49:47 pm
rich, i'll get a pic of the drain!
Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: XRrich on March 08, 2013, 10:23:58 pm
rich, i'll get a pic of the drain!
Awesome mate :)

There's a guy here in Portugal, who is also a user on this forum that can fix that!

I know it might be cheaper to get that part second hand, but his job is really amazing, you almost can't notice that it was broken before.


TBH its only a spare charger but would be interesting to speak to him if you know who he is

How would one manage to do that to their charger? do g laders just blow up when they feel like it?

My guess would be someone has tried to get an oil seal out with the incorrect tool? Or can the just weaken and break?
Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: SuperMario on March 09, 2013, 08:18:59 am
Ouch, yea your properly right about how it broke tho, then the bugger put it back together and stuck it on ebay!!! How much was cheap?
Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: XRrich on March 09, 2013, 09:41:58 am
£70 yeah bit annoying but win some to loose some
Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: z3i on March 09, 2013, 04:08:21 pm
£70 yeah bit annoying but win some to loose some

Saw this for sale, nearly bought it :S
Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: PeteG40 on March 11, 2013, 08:07:21 pm
scrolls are usually worth 100-120 dep on condition... so not all lost
Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: XRrich on March 11, 2013, 09:14:36 pm
shweet yeah rest of its fine, just shame about the casing
Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: grungeisdead on March 14, 2013, 01:02:57 pm
my friend arun recently repaired a friends g60 charger where the groove had broken, slipped a piece of copper in between the grooves and tig'd it.

i suggested getting it tig'd as matt was originally thinking of chemical metal and i was like nooooooooooo

ill get some pictures up of the repair when i see him this week
Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: Andy on March 14, 2013, 03:14:15 pm
PSD used to chemical metal chargers for people if a pikey bodge was all they could afford. I ran a slut charger that was held together like that for a while, just relied on the intercooler strainer to catch any bits that fell out...
Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: PeteG40 on March 14, 2013, 08:22:03 pm
Problem with any big weld, wouldn't like any excessive heat going through them for fear of warping.. Or if you weld, the mill out, its a compound radius
Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: XRrich on March 15, 2013, 08:03:57 pm
sounds pikey lol as i say its only a spare so unless i blow mine up i wont worry too much, :)
cheers for the input though guys :)
Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: Karlos the jackyl on April 22, 2013, 07:15:33 pm
PSD used to chemical metal chargers for people if a pikey bodge was all they could afford. I ran a slut charger that was held together like that for a while, just relied on the intercooler strainer to catch any bits that fell out...

I ran my g60 blower like this for years without issues .. The power it made was crazy considering.
Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: Andy on April 22, 2013, 07:38:03 pm
Mine held together too, but always worried about the lumps scrapping the motor if it shat itself.
Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: Karlos the jackyl on April 23, 2013, 08:08:10 pm
Mine held together too, but always worried about the lumps scrapping the motor if it shat itself.

That had always been my worry from day zero as well , not because of the "repairs"  , but a g40/g60 charger can let go without warning... G60 even more so. Top bearings usually seize and wipe the whole lot out.

Apex seals are ok if you can keep on top of them .. old ones shrink and punch a hole in the ends due to excessive movement.



Title: Re: Apex seal grooves scrap? - broken
Post by: z3i on April 23, 2013, 09:27:06 pm
I dislike reading about G laders, it just fills me with more worry about driving mine hard