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Technical => Superchargers / G-Lader => Topic started by: Oli b on August 05, 2011, 06:18:26 pm

Title: G40 boost preasure
Post by: Oli b on August 05, 2011, 06:18:26 pm
Hi my g40 engine has had 65 mm pulley jabbasport chipped ecu and stage 4 jabbasport charger ( rebuilt around 10k miles ago)
Boost gauge shows 0.9 bar when on full throttle and creeps up to 1.0 bar near the redline
Is that a good amount of boost for this spec ?
Cheers
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: Jezza-7 on August 05, 2011, 06:31:37 pm
Yes. My R1 charger was boosting 14/15 psi and near redline was getting 18/19psi.
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: ereeiz on August 10, 2011, 10:22:58 am
About the same for me too, I get about 1.0 bar creeping to 1.1 near the limiter. Full blend, 65mm toothed belt kit and cheapo Autogauge boost gauge
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: Richg40 on August 10, 2011, 12:27:10 pm
1.1 bar, ported myself with 65mm pulley.
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: Jake G 4 0 on August 17, 2011, 07:34:59 pm
Are you guys using toothies or standard v belts??  Or have I just got a massive boost leak??
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: Jezza-7 on August 17, 2011, 10:12:15 pm
Toothies.
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: ereeiz on August 18, 2011, 10:03:27 am
Think it peaked about 0.8 or 0.9 with 65mm pulley and tight vee-belts for ten miles or so then they'd slack off/stretch.
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: hayesey on August 19, 2011, 09:36:13 am
I never saw more than 15psi on mine when it had a g-lader and 65mm pulley with toothies on it.  I'd question the boost gauge accuracy if you are seeing 18/19psi on it :D

It went down to 13/14 when I put a gt inlet and de-wedged the throttle body, as you'd expect.
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: Jezza-7 on August 19, 2011, 09:42:56 pm
Nothing wrong with my gauge. Think it would be rare for a stack gauge to be inaccurate.

My boost is now 10-11 psi, running 51mm tb, gt inlet, ported head and 1341 bottom end.
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: Dan-G40 on August 20, 2011, 06:01:19 pm
Used to get 14psi at the red line on my old G with a 65mm pulley and tight v belts (PSD Full Blend)
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: AlexG40 on August 20, 2011, 06:24:21 pm
It does depend a lot on the rest of the engine. My R1 used to pull 17psi on a stock engine.
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: ereeiz on August 21, 2011, 10:58:09 am
Remember the accuracy of the gauge too, I'd bet most the ones used are just naff cheap ones like mine :D So the components used will have poor tolerances and variations in results, so if you're a few PSI/0.1bar' off someone with similar/ same mods then i'd put it down to that.

Best way to tell is do an identical drive in the other car and swap gauges, see if you get the same results in both. Even then there's no guarantee that either is correct, they could both be off :p
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: alan gorst on August 24, 2011, 02:07:55 pm
i get 10psi on a jabba stage 4 charger with standard pully
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: JIMMYP on October 03, 2011, 08:38:05 pm
if u have had a stage 4 rebuild do u need the higher co pot sensor?
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: hayesey on October 04, 2011, 10:39:34 am
the what? shouldn't have to do anything to the CO pot.
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: budunt121 on April 18, 2012, 01:04:55 pm
i get 9/10 psi with a standard charger that needs a rebuild and running a 65mm pulley with jabba chip and g60 style belts and the gt inlet
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: poloandyb on April 20, 2012, 11:21:38 pm
i get the same 0.9-1bar near red line with a 65mm pulley,r1 charger,standard v belts with beltslip spray on them
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: budunt121 on April 21, 2012, 08:58:51 am
i would have thought you would get more with the r1 charger , i dont know if i should rebuild mine or go for the r1!
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: poloandyb on April 21, 2012, 10:00:02 am
their all about same to be honest from what i can tell,my mates got a full blend and he's running about the same.
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: AlexG40 on April 21, 2012, 12:07:11 pm
Don't forget that if you've got ported bits your boost may drop relative to others.
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: PeteG40 on April 21, 2012, 01:23:40 pm
theres a big difference from 9psi to 0.9 bar - 1 bar is 16psi.

You see about 0.2 bar difference with a ported charger
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: dub-disaster on April 21, 2012, 04:52:46 pm
I thought one bar was 14.7 psi  ?
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: Jezza-7 on April 21, 2012, 05:52:19 pm
I thought it was 14.5?
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: cheys03 on April 21, 2012, 07:02:46 pm
14.5...ish

http://tinyurl.com/bpx9jyp

Sorry Pete!
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: Justin14100 on April 22, 2012, 03:31:10 am
Normally 1 bar is seen as the pressure of the earths atmosphere at sea level, which is 14.7 psi, but 1 bar actually equates to 14.5psi.
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: Andy on April 22, 2012, 09:02:33 am
Justin - you're confusing bar with atmospheres. Bar is an SI unit, so its definition doesn't change, atmospheric pressure at sea level is about 1013mBar.
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: Justin14100 on April 22, 2012, 09:59:44 am
Yes, and 1atm is 14.7psi - which is why people think 1 bar is 14.7psi - because 1bar usually is just accepted as the pressure of the atmosphere. hence the misconception.
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: PeteG40 on April 22, 2012, 12:35:40 pm
my bad - 14. whatever.

even so... 9 psi wth a 65 is low
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: scotsjohn on April 22, 2012, 02:14:58 pm
Would 1225 Torr sound better? lol.
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: budunt121 on April 24, 2012, 12:39:03 pm
i thought it was i may just rebuild this standard one unless i find a cheap r1/full blend
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: si polo coupe on July 08, 2012, 10:58:27 pm
Im glad this tread is going. Wanted to ask about my boost
Mods on engine.
Rebuilt r1 2k ago, 51mm polished throttle body, ported polished gt inlet, 65mm psd phase1 toothies, 1341cc, pace intercooler with minium bends, lightend & balenced bottom end, psd uprated injectors, sns stage 5 chip, light porting and polished head. Etc.  Mine hits 20-21 psi on my digital glow shift gauge, at 7k is that about right.
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: hayesey on July 09, 2012, 09:44:05 am
that sounds way off to me!  assuming that you're talking about the normal g40 charger and you've not fitted a g60, then I'd be surprised if it was making more than 13-14psi.  Things like 51mm TB, GT inlet will actually reduce the boost pressure you see on a gauge because more air is going into the engine.

it can't be making 21psi with a g40 g-lader.
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: si polo coupe on July 09, 2012, 09:52:32 am
Yea g40 r1. Ive been told its high but cant understand why its reading that high.
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: hayesey on July 09, 2012, 10:19:45 am
I'd try a different gauge
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Post by: SuperMario on July 10, 2012, 10:36:30 pm
I'd try a different gauge

x2  sounds whey to high for the spec
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: z3i on December 17, 2012, 10:04:35 pm
De wedged throttle, 65mm pulley, standard charger new vee belts, unknown chip and mine makes 10psi at 7k?
i see some people are getting around 15 psi with the same mods?
would a worn charger cause that much drop as i dont know when it was last serviced
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: PeteG40 on December 18, 2012, 07:14:45 am
you wont get that high with a stock charger...  you'd get 0.8 bar max... comparable to about 1bar 1.1bar with a fully ported unit
Title: Re: G40 boost preasure
Post by: z3i on December 24, 2012, 11:49:08 pm
Ah, thanks for that. has put my mind at ease, thought the charger was on its way out and in need of a rebuild
i didnt realize a fully ported made so much difference
thanks mate