Club G40 Forum
Technical => Engine and Transmission => Topic started by: Jezza-7 on December 15, 2010, 10:53:42 pm
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On the way back home and went to put it in 5th and it went into 3rd. So put alt of weight on it and it went in 5th. As i went to reverse in the driveway, the car went forward. I looked down and it was fully over left and it still went forward, but no reverse light. Took the plastic centre out and it looked ok so when i put it in reverse the plastic stop went under to engage reverse and it still went forward.
Cant see much underneath as its far to dark.
Any ideas?
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sounds like the linkage has slipped underneath!
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I did think that.... bloody car
Cheers pete. Will jack it up tomorrow.
Thinking, if i replace it, where should i get it from? VAG or GSF?
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might just need undoing, repositioning then tightening up properly
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Ok will give that ago tomorrow.
Cheers again pete ;)
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Ok, took it to a local good garage near me and they played around for a while and its not the linkage. The linkage was a little loose but not the problem. Its an internal problem as there was alot of play in the gear shaft rod.
Need a new gear box, recon mine or might be able to get a 6 speed sequential setup.
Whats the difference between ATV and CEK?
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are you sure it doesn't just need new linkage bushes? These are available as a kit from GSF.
Has the garage made much attempt to re-set the linkage? mk3 polo gear linkages are pretty slack at the best of times compared with even most cars from the early 90s (e.g. mk2 golfs etc...etc...).
or might be able to get a 6 speed sequential setup.
you realise you're probably talking 6 or 7 grand for a second hand one of those if you can find one for sale right?
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Yeah they compltely removed it then set it up, refitted, when reverse was selected it went in ok but when taken out of gear then put back in reverse it wouldnt go at all.
There friend used to do lots of rallying and has been into gearboxs all his life. They reckon he would only charge 1k.
They said he only charges around £200 for a rebuild i think, but imgoing to ring him in a bit.
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only charge £1k for what?
£200 for a rebuild is OK depending on what you actually get for that, does it include the price of the bearings etc... or is that purely labour?
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From what they said thats a full rebuild with all seals and bearings replaced.
I think if i can get hold of another box it will be a better option for me at the mo.
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hmm depends, a decently rebuilt box should be a lot better than buying another 20 year old one. If both were £200 I think a rebuild is the best option.
But you need to be sure what £200 includes before getting them to do it or you could suddenly end up with a bill for much more.
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Found a company near me in somerset, http://www.gearchange.co.uk and im going to take the car to them in the new year. I was gonna take the box out myself but i dont have any ramps or access to raise the car, plus the mot is due in feb so i need it done for then.
Such a pain as this stops me from getting all the parts i need for when the BVH goes in march. Oh well, i remember someone once said to me "hope you have deep pockets" haha ::)
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Still no joy.
Got a new box put on and it still wont select reverse properly. I dont think its setup correctly though so im gonna take it to a garage to get it looked at as im getting pissed off with the car now. Everything looks fine underneath and it selects fine when i do it with my hand, just not when connected. The gearbox that came off has got some sort of knocking noise when selecting gear and has a lot of play in the input shaft.
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when i changed my gearbox over it took me a few times to get it right with my dad in the car and me underneath adjusting the linkage, makes it a lot easier with some one to give you a hand.
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I tried that with my mate but it still wouldn't go. Not sure if he had it in the right position though. In haynes is says 11mm from the left hand side of the surround to the lip (for reverse) and 43mm from the front.
On one attempt i put it in reverse then tried to connect it up but it didn't work again. Getting frustrated with it now.
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have you tried holding the gearstick in the centre nuteral position then get mate to tighten the 10mm bolt thats what i do make shore the gearbox is set to nuteral too.
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Yeah thats what i tried as well.
When you say 10mm do you mean 13mm? On the mechanism thats on the gear shaft?
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I think he's refering to the m6 or m8 bolt that attatches the rod from the mechanism below the gear stick to the shaft come out of the box I'm assuming this is where you seperated it not at the mechanism below the grarstick ??
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Well its booked in to go to (dare i say) vw. There's not many places i can take it thats not too far away and im fed up with it. If this doesn't get sorted im thinking down the line of selling/breaking. Maybe im just getting too frustrated!!!!
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you're going to break a car because the gear linkage isn't lined up right?!? It just needs more time, there's no secret magic it's just trial and error till you get it right. Unless the linkage is simply bent and in that case it shouldnt cost much to get hold of a 2nd hand mk3 polo gear linkage, or just straighten out the bent bits.
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Is this the actual linkage?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK3-POLO-MK2-MK3-LINKAGE-SHIFT-FINGER-C43_W0QQitemZ190422002168QQcategoryZ9889QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp5197.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6922705811727782980#ht_1655wt_907
Or is the linkage the metal part that connects it all?
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sign up on the vag-cat forums mate, its an online etka and your find a picture of the entire linkage.
that is jsut the finger that fits on the end of the selector shaft that comes out of the gearbox. the linkage from the gearstick connects via a splined rod that fits into a cage, the cage fits over the shift finger.
the diagram should explain it, if you were closer, id set it up for you, its easier with 2 people.
i find it best to push the selector shaft all the way in, get a mate to hold the gearstick in 3rd and bosh it in the splined rod and tighten, test all gears, forward and back movement should be fine, but its the side to side movement (to engage reverse/1st and 5th) that can be adjusted by turning the splined shift rod, in the cage.
dont break it for something simple
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I know what bit you mean. Already on vagcat.
Just trying to get reverse is the only problem.
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can you get it into reverse easily with the linkage disconnected? is the gearstick able to move over to left enough when you push it down, to clear the tab that stops you selecting reverse inadvertantly
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When disconnected and by hand its easy and when the gear lever is pushed down it goes over properly. I have to push down at the mo to get it into 1st as its not setup correctly underneath. Its not been driven like that until i take to garage tomorrow.
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from what i have found, there are 2 variables.
the actual 10mm locator on the rod, and the 13mm bracket securing part
both these need to be fiddled to get it right, its a pain but you need to do them both not just one!
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Its now been sorted ;D
Managed to get a good discount so i didnt get ripped off by vw!
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Ah sorted!! Nice one. Must be a big relief.
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what did they say it was then im intreted now was it just out of line ??
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Yeah big relief! Just gotta do approx 450miles to run clutch in.
yeah it was just out of line. But im glad its done!