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Club G40 => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Justin14100 on September 18, 2010, 11:09:05 am

Title: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: Justin14100 on September 18, 2010, 11:09:05 am: http://www.roettele-racing.de/shop/themes/kategorie/detail.php?artikelid=12&source=2&refertype=1&referid=23
just found this - duno if any of you guys have seen it before.
nice to know there is still exciting development in the G-lader area. they appear to be making new stronger scrolls for G60's too!
interesting stuff!
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: hardchargin40 on September 18, 2010, 04:02:27 pm: Never seen this before but bookmarked for future posterity! ;D
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: Justin14100 on September 18, 2010, 06:40:24 pm: Need to find someone rich enough to get a G75 when they are around on a 1.5 py conversion!
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: richard16vg60 on September 20, 2010, 10:53:33 am: there are on the moment 8 G65 drivers 4 Roettele-racing..
no garanties what so ever!!

rpm has also a scroller in the shop
http://www.rp-motorsport.de/

roettele-racing needs testdriver ;D
http://roettele-racing.de/feedback_testfahrer.html

and take a look at the prject section :)
1.3i 16V g60 8) also four that the need a testdriver...

some pictures of the roettele site..
(http://roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/Polo%201,3l%2016vG60%203%20(web).jpg)
(http://roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/1,3l%2016VG60%20Block%20mit%20kolben%202%20(web).jpg)
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: hardchargin40 on September 20, 2010, 06:02:36 pm: Sod the house, sell it, I need one of them in my life! 8) ;D

Assuming going on a 1.5, one would assume that the stronger scroll would be good on a motorsport application? Though would the seals still be an issue on track day/motorsport thrashing? As most racing applications seen at present have all been berg cup hill climbers.

Love the Bi-polo they have - 250bhp at the wheels! :o

Also they've used a golf mk4 1400 16v head, wonder what they did to it to fit as i thought (and i may be incorrect) that the waterways where the problem? Although the berg boys have had 130016v for ages i guess. Surprised there's not more people doing 16v conversions now.
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: Weeman on September 20, 2010, 06:58:39 pm: If the 1.4 16v head on a 1300 is the same issue as the 2.0 16v head on the 1800 block, then it's just a water hole needs part welding over. We fitted one to my girlfriends gti engine and fitted bike carbs. It ran sweet as a nut and was an easy mod to do :)

Would be interesting to se the head up close and compare it to a head gasket....
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: dub-disaster on September 20, 2010, 10:01:02 pm: Somone on club polo was selling a 16v conversion head that had been welded up. Dunno if any one bought it in the end dnt think it did.
Whats the main benifits of 16v I know they breathe more but doesn't it move you powerband higher up the rev range or is that down to cam choice abd tuning ?
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: Nick_S on October 28, 2010, 12:26:35 am: Most of those on that site just seem to be heavily ported chargers to give more boost, rather than much remanufacturing.

Here is a true G45 for sale 8)

http://cgi.ebay.de/VW-Polo-G40-G60-Turbo-Top-Zustand-G45-Lader-RARITAT-/190459800768?pt=Autoteile_Zubeh%C3%B6r&hash=item2c5849ecc0 (http://cgi.ebay.de/VW-Polo-G40-G60-Turbo-Top-Zustand-G45-Lader-RARITAT-/190459800768?pt=Autoteile_Zubeh%C3%B6r&hash=item2c5849ecc0)
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: poloeatonm45 on October 29, 2010, 09:41:59 pm: i would love to have more info on doing a 16valve convertion for my g40 mybe or even just as a project to mess about with
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: hardchargin40 on October 31, 2010, 03:42:09 pm: I guess the easiest way is to get a 16v head and start comparing them, where to weld up etc.

From Roettele Racing (translated):
Quote
We are building a 1.3L 16V Polo G40 with G60 charger engine block and crankshaft is original G40 pistons
are custom made by Mahle forged pistons, our oil jets, we have built.
Compression is 8.5:1. Charging pressure about 1 0.2 to 1, 5 bar with G60 charger and our flat-belt drive,
Cylinder head is of the 1,4 L 16V Golf 4 with modified water connecting (Polo G40) and the distributor (Polo G40).
Suction tube is fashioned custom-built with G60 throttle body, exhaust pipe from the 16V on the G40 Cat
We are curious what matters hp at the wheel. Background of the action is a Umbaukitt for the road
and possibly a stricter racing version with 1420ccm engine capacity.

(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/1,3l%2016VG60%20mit%20G40%20Verteiler%20(web).jpg)

(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/1,3l%2016VG60%207%20mit%20g40%20Wasserflansch%20(web).jpg)

(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/1,3l%2016VG60%20%20Schmiedekolben%20von%20Mahle%20(web).jpg)

(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/1,3l%2016VG60%20Block%20mit%20kolben%202%20(web).jpg)

(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/Polo%201,3l%2016vG60%20(web).jpg)

(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/Polo%201,3l%2016vG60%202%20(web).jpg)

(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/Polo%201,3l%2016vG60%203%20(web).jpg)

(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/Polo%201,3l%2016vG60%204%20(web).jpg)

(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/Polo%201,3l%2016vG60%205%20(web).jpg)

(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/Polo%201,3l%2016vG60%206%20(web).jpg)

Sorry for taking this OT, split and move this if you feel it appropriate. ;D
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: Turbodaily on November 03, 2010, 11:27:11 pm: Me likey! Wonder if you could get away with using normal g40 pistons?
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: poloeatonm45 on November 04, 2010, 08:38:05 pm: dont think so because on a mk3 the com chamber is in the piston but on a mk4 its in the head i think
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: poloeatonm45 on November 04, 2010, 08:42:34 pm: looking at the the crank pully,water pump and tentioner will all have the be spaced out will they not so they all line up with the cam shaft pully as that sits way out on the outside of the pully for the 16v head. it would be a bugger to squeeze that into a mk3 engine bay
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: richard16vg60 on February 21, 2011, 02:52:31 pm: roettele-racing update of the 16vG65
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/SDC10594%20(web).jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/SDC10596%20(web).jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/SDC10595%20(web).jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/SDC10593%20(web).jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/SDC10592%20(web).jpg)
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: Alex on February 21, 2011, 05:29:54 pm: I wish I had the cash! That looks awesome!

That said, surely that's going to be a gearbox killer?
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: Fred on April 23, 2011, 10:07:26 am: Quote from: Alex on February 21, 2011, 05:29:54 pm
I wish I had the cash! That looks awesome!

That said, surely that's going to be a gearbox killer?

Or in Hasesay`s case-A drive shaft snapper.
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: richard16vg60 on April 26, 2011, 08:46:35 am: there,s news from the 1,3L 16V Polo G40 Motor mit G65 Lader

(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/SDC10690%20(web)3.jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/SDC10689%20(web)3.jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/SDC10688%20(web)3.jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/SDC10685%20(web)3.jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/SDC10684%20(web)3.jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/SDC10683%20(web)3.jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/SDC10680%20(web)3.jpg)
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: ereeiz on April 26, 2011, 11:27:33 am: Has anyone bought a G45 yet? I'm interested to see what owners opinions are of them. Considering flogging both of mine and putting a bit more towards it to buy one. Although it does mention something about sending bits to be aluminium coated (I use Google chrome and it translated it) so I'm not sure if the price is for converting your existing charger?
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: PeteG40 on April 26, 2011, 11:35:15 am: they do g65 at g-laderseite.

From what i've seen its a new scroll (no idea of quality) and you have to send your old charger in exchange (or its much more too). Plus on the rotelle video the porting is nowhere near r1 or full blend on their demo ones.
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: poloeatonm45 on April 26, 2011, 03:52:57 pm: I need to 16 valve my eaton g40
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: jtpdubz on May 11, 2011, 02:23:11 pm: video of the 16v g60 noise please!
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: Andy on May 11, 2011, 02:37:43 pm: Quote from: ereeiz on April 26, 2011, 11:27:33 am
Has anyone bought a G45 yet? I'm interested to see what owners opinions are of them.
If anyone wants one through G-laderseite contact us first - we're a UK distributor, so should be able to get it cheaper.
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: richard16vg60 on June 25, 2011, 02:46:29 pm: there is more news from toettele-racing...

(http://www.roettele-racing.de/g65ladergruppea_files/Photos/SDC10865%20(web).jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/g65ladergruppea_files/Photos/SDC10866%20(web).jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/g65ladergruppea_files/Photos/SDC10867%20(web).jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/g65ladergruppea_files/Photos/SDC10868%20(web).jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/g65ladergruppea_files/Photos/SDC10869%20(web).jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/g65ladergruppea_files/Photos/SDC10870%20(web).jpg)
8)

G65lader Gruppe A
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: richard16vg60 on June 25, 2011, 02:47:12 pm: (http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/SDC10883%20(web)2.jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/SDC10881%20(web)2.jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/SDC10889%20(web)2.jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/SDC10890%20(web)2.jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/SDC10891%20(web)2.jpg)
(http://www.roettele-racing.de/G60Motor_PoloG40_files/Photos/SDC10892%20(web)2.jpg)
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: poloeatonm45 on June 25, 2011, 05:59:45 pm: Oh I just did a sex wee I need one of those in my life
Title: Re: G45, G65 and soon a G75 charger!
Post by: vwmk3jon on June 27, 2011, 12:24:27 am: Quote from: poloeatonm45 on June 25, 2011, 05:59:45 pm
Oh I just did a sex wee I need one of those in my life

X2 :)