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Technical => Chassis & Braking => Topic started by: eppo on March 21, 2010, 12:23:55 am

Title: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: eppo on March 21, 2010, 12:23:55 am: Hi! i have purchase a pro kit eibach springs, and i m thinking to buy some koni dumpers because i think eibach springs and stock bumpers are a bit bumpy :-\. My question is, if i mount koni with the eibach springs i can resolve the problem. thanks
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: PeteG40 on March 21, 2010, 08:17:50 am: konis are much harder than standard dampers, but eibach/koni is a good combination. Offers some compliance and comfort but takes corners well. I used it for 2-3 years - the eibach only lower by about 5-10mm though
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: eppo on March 22, 2010, 12:55:17 am: Tanks Pete for the help! :)
In my case, the springs lower my car in 15mm on front and 10mm on the rear. but with konis i think you can put in a lower possition in the rear? ???
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: eppo on March 22, 2010, 01:44:10 am: i m thinking cut a bit of the springs to get the 30mm ...i dont know if that is a good ideia but...... i want a bit more lowest :P
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: PeteG40 on March 22, 2010, 09:07:00 am: i would not cut them, i would replace with other lower springs if necessary
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: eppo on March 23, 2010, 12:26:59 am: i gonna see with the koni dampers, the car is ok,i have nice handling with the eibach, but the thing is not to low ...but i like the springs ;)
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: eppo on March 27, 2010, 08:59:00 pm: here is the stuff (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Foto0105.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Foto0112.jpg)
maybe i gonna cut a bit of the springs....i really dont know
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: eppo on March 28, 2010, 11:03:04 pm: here is my g only with eibach springs.... is a litle more low than standard springs
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Foto0113.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Foto0116.jpg)
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: G-spot on March 29, 2010, 10:04:30 pm: Quote from: eppo on March 23, 2010, 12:26:59 am
i gonna see with the koni dampers, the car is ok,i have nice handling with the eibach, but the thing is not to low ...but i like the springs ;)

I reccommend doing a bit of backround reading before cutting springs, as it will effect your spring rating for the length of travel, and as they are progressive springs it just complicates it further. If your running standard geometory then maybe a set of lowering top caps may give yoyu the desired stance??
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: eppo on March 30, 2010, 02:05:14 am: how many mm will low with lowering top caps?
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: G-spot on March 30, 2010, 08:29:55 am: they say about 10-15mm, i fitted to my G40, but due to my increased castor angle with my subframe, the lowered caps were rubbing the front edge at the top of the inner wing where the mounts are.
:(
So I'm back running stanadard hieght eibachs now, and I feel that the extra 10-15mm drop did give the car more front end grip and better traction, so cutting was in the back of my mind, but wouldn't advise it as not done it myself and wouldn't want you to wreck a set of springs on my say so. Though i gotta say that when loaded the bottom 2/3coils on the eibachs are resting on each other anyway, so from that perspective cutting 1 off would drop you about 8mm and 'probably' :-\ not effect the spring operation at all.

Comments/thought's??
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: eppo on March 30, 2010, 06:03:33 pm: thanks for the help G-spot, i gonna mount the kit with no mods on the springs, i read here in the forum,this is a good combo.... i will trie than
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: kompressor1 on April 03, 2010, 09:32:24 pm: I've the same springs. At the begining with Koni coilovers, now with Bilstein B6. The Bilstein are far away better and more confortable!
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: G-spot on April 04, 2010, 05:25:04 pm: Anyone know a good priced supplier for the Bilstiens?
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: eppo on April 12, 2010, 11:00:34 pm: i mount the konis in my G, but the car goes up again ??? i resoulve mode the springs, i cut 2 turns of the springs in the rear, and 1/2 turn in front... here it goes
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture834.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture835.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture836.jpg)
the handling is much metter than before
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: G-spot on April 14, 2010, 04:34:10 pm: Quote from: eppo on April 12, 2010, 11:00:34 pm
i mount the konis in my G, but the car goes up again ??? i resoulve mode the springs, i cut 2 turns of the springs in the rear, and 1/2 turn in front...
the handling is much metter than before

Were they standard G40 springs that you cut?? As these aren't progressive, they are quite a firm spring too, so I'm interested to know results!?

How is the ride? Bouncy/firm or just the same but lower?
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: SD_T on April 14, 2010, 07:31:35 pm: Hey Eppo...

Posso perguntar quanto deste pelos koni, se n for discrição?

De onde és, ja agora? Parece Leça isso ;)

Abraço de G Tuga!
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: eppo on April 15, 2010, 03:05:14 am: G/spot, the springs which i cut was the eibach springs, the ride is the same but lower, the handling is very very good, i realy like it, the only problem is get the same mm in the rear and front.


Agora para o SDT. Boas meu, eu sou de Aveiro, dei 410 euros pelos 4 koni regulaveis no representante ja com 15 ou 20 por cento de desconto que eles estao a fazer, e de aproveitar, qq coisa adiciona me no msn, sou moderador/Administrador do forum g40 sleepers , aqui fica o indereco e o meu email. http://clube.sytes.net/Volkswagen/Polo/G40/

andresilva551@hotmail.com

um abraco Andre
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: eppo on May 02, 2010, 02:57:43 am: hi! I decided to slightly increase the regidez of suspensions, but to my amazement the suspension increased a little, maybe 0.5 cm, is this possible? With increasing regidez of suspension, the own car gets a little louder?
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: eppo on May 02, 2010, 07:26:54 pm: right now the car is like this
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture915.jpg)
with this harder setup of the koni,s the handling is superb, i like it very much :)
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: eppo on May 04, 2010, 01:04:50 am: (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture928.jpg)
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: eppo on May 08, 2010, 05:54:36 am: new pics ;D
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture953.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture948.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture951.jpg)
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: Puncharado on May 08, 2010, 11:21:55 am: I'm personally against cutting springs, but I have to admit I like the stance on that!
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: eppo on May 09, 2010, 04:31:40 am: a few more of my project :)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture961.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture957.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture964.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture965.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture966.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture944.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture956.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture942.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture940.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture962.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture945.jpg)
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: Fred on June 01, 2010, 09:22:34 pm: 5th pic from bottom looks really good to me.
Nice car.

Fred.
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: eppo on June 07, 2010, 12:58:37 am: thank s , i realy like it :-*
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: eppo on June 15, 2010, 12:43:01 am: here they are
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture1040.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture1041.jpg)
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: eppo on June 15, 2010, 12:46:57 am: my G and Madmike project
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture1032.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/eppofreak/Picture1038.jpg)
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: Fred on July 14, 2010, 11:33:02 pm: On the 4th pic up! Have you put the wider bush of the rear Koni`s pointing towards the hubs.
Only it looks to be on a fair lean.

Nice car and stance looks good even though its too low for me.

Fred.
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: vwmk3jon on July 20, 2010, 05:40:56 pm: G60 :)
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: mstar on August 10, 2010, 09:36:27 pm: Can you list the parts convert the rear drum brakes to disc brakes? It Golf gti MK2 disc and callipers right? What else is needed?
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: grungeisdead on October 26, 2010, 01:01:43 am: there is some serious porn in this thread, i would how that dudes g60 project is going.

the g on the konis sits really well and should handle really with the koni/eibach setup and r888's, that will be a hoot on the dry roads where you are!
Title: Re: eibach springs and koni dampers combo
Post by: newt on October 26, 2010, 09:37:11 pm: surely if the springs are "coilbound" cutting 1 coil will make no difference to handling or rate of spring , it will just lower the thickness of 1 coil
many race cars run loose springs on coilovers (when raised up) they cause no handling issues
cutting springs is not ideal but if done properly and in the right circumstances i dont see it as a problem