Club G40 Forum
Club G40 => General Car Chat => Topic started by: giorgio on July 07, 2008, 08:15:11 pm
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I have commandeered the old PSD order for Mk1-3 Polo Polyurethane Engine Mounts.
Steve managed to haggle them down to about £16 a unit, although he was planning on buying 90 units.
They offered me 20 units, delivered to my door for £572.50. £28.60 each if you were wondering. At that price I am not interested although I am going to get haggling and see if I can get the unit cost price to <£20. I could probably buy all 20 and sell them on although I don't want the hassle of dealing with numpties.
That quote was inclusive of taxes and overnight shipping. Cash in hand, slow delivery etc should see the price drop. With the amount of shows etc coming I am sure we can distribute them between ourselves.
If I can get the price down to £20 Steve wants 3, I want 3, Pinches will have 2. So that leaves 4 sets [12 units] up for grabs.
How many people want some and what sort of price you willing to pay. Obviously the more we buy the cheaper the price
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What 'poly' are they being made from?
Have you tested any of them yet?
Who is making them?
And what lifetime/gaurentee will I get for my cash?
I've just sent in plans for some to be made, they'll be more than that cost, which is why I'm asking the questions above. There's little point (in my opinion) in selling a product that has never been tested properly- imagine the cost when 20 people ask you for thier money back and then extra cash because their enigne just fell out.
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*what he said* lol
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Pete I did recall you mentioning possible production although all went quiet at the PPP camp so I just sent the email thinking you have dropped the idea.
What 'poly' are they being made from?
Not sure what you mean by 'what poly'. They are 55 on the A-Scale if your wanting to know the hardness.
Have you tested any of them yet?
Joe Kaluza has tested a full set, and from what I was told he has been more than pleased and he has been running them for a fair while.
Who is making them?
Custom Moulded Polyurethane Ltd
www.custompolyurethane.co.uk
And what lifetime/gaurentee will I get for my cash?
I am taking no responsibility for the product. If Steve/PSD was willing to put his name and a few grand on the line then thats all I need to know in terms of quality.
I am making no money on the items, hence my complete transparency, I am only made this thread to help fellow club members out. Its not 20 people its 20 units, and I am only after 4 people if you want to look at it that way. Gentleman's agreements sold in good faith.
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Put me down for a set, ie 3 Giorgio.
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I am definately in!!
I was told that these faired really well under testing!! Not as hard as the Cup versions but hard enough to give a firm mounting for road and track work alike..
Maybe someine could get Joe Kaluza to give a short quote on his findings just for interests sake?
3 for me please Giorgio.....
Thanks
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There I was at work checking my emails [was supposed to be putting Charlie and Lola on for the kiddies] and I read the reviewed quote of £19 each. I nearly fell of the chair laughing.
So folks is £19 each with them all delivered to my house. So thats £57 for a set of 3 set.
Minimum order of 20 units.
Giorgio 3
Steve PSD 3
Rob 3
Pinches 2
Jez 3
Total 14
That leaves 6 units, 2 sets, up for grabs.
if people could spread the word via msn etc then nobody can miss out the oppertunity. Not wanting to create some kind of PolyBush-Clique but would rather people who are serious were the only people who are involved. Will happily increase the order if you are willing to stump up the cash for a friend. That way i am only chasing 7 or so people.
will accept gaypal if you cover the cost [£2.30] Although online bank transfer is my preferred method.
As soon as I get the cash we are good to go.
No idea how to find this Joe character if I am honest <_<
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I will have a set too please.
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Me also, have confirmed over the phone aswell.
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Giorgio Demetriou
Barclays Bank
Sort Code: 20-92-54
Acc No: 60003522
alternatively giorgio.demetriou@gmail.com for PayPal. Please dont forget to add the money for their robbery fees. I know it seems like I am being petty but it actually going to end up about 20 quid down if nobody pays them.
Hopefully I can get the money sorted out and sent by this weekend
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I'll have 3 of these as well please, seeing as though these are effectively the PSD ones. Will wire you the monies a litte later. Are they gonna be red in colour?
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see bottom of the topic
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[quote pid=2282 author=Nick_S date=1215543590]I'll have 3 of these as well please, seeing as though these are effectively the PSD ones. Will wire you the monies a litte later. Are they gonna be red in colour?[/quote]
Nick I never specified which colour I wanted so assume they are going to be the same red as PSD had ordered. I have asked for them in black but will see what happens. I am not overly concerned anyway.
I will go ahead with an order of 24 units [8 Sets] and will add Pinches onto the end if we can get them in black
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Giorgio am I on that list or not i did put my name down further up. Need to know if i'm sending you any money tomorrow or not.
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sorry steve - list amended
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With it being a batch run we will only be able to choose one colour. They normally add a colour pigment to the Polyol before reacting it with the MDI to form Polyurethane. Having seen a bit of this side of the automotive industry with work, i don't remember seeing any black PU about. Grey is very common, but i suppose by using enough carbon black powder as the pigement, this grey could be got to black.
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[quote pid=2290 author=Nick_S date=1215550100]With it being a batch run we will only be able to choose one colour. They normally add a colour pigment to the Polyol before reacting it with the MDI to form Polyurethane. Having seen a bit of this side of the automotive industry with work, i don't remember seeing any black PU about. Grey is very common, but i suppose by using enough carbon black powder as the pigement, this grey could be got to black.[/quote]
to be honest I am not fussed was just seeing if we can sort them out in black. if not they so be it.
Max has paid, Steve & Ste are putting money in my account tomorrow so Nick, Rob & Jez your on my hitlist.
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Payment sent
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assuming its a bank transfer mate. I trust the cash will turn up.
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Hi mate,
payment been paid via paypal.
cheers mate.
Jez
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took some doing but they are all going to be BLACK at no extra cost.
I now have the numbers/money to go ahead with the order. The cheque is being put in the post on Monday, so anybody who has paid will have their mounts ordered.
Lead time is 2-3 weeks once the cheque has cleared.
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Sent you the money by bank transfer
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Hey any chance of getting a set of these still?
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Giorgio_____PAID
Lance______PAID
Max_______ PAID
Nick_______ PAID
Ste_______ PAID
Steve PSD__ PAID
Jez _______ PAID
Pinches ____PAID
Extra Set __ PAID By Me
Cheque is signed, sealed and ready for post.
Rob - I tried contacting you on msn but still haven't managed to sort out payment. I have a few people who contacted me who are interested in buying them so I will order the extra set. Cant extend the order any more as postage will begin to creep up. Already pushing my luck because of some of the 'tactics' used in negotiating.
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SHIT SHIT SHIT
I always miss out on good shit!
Got to get on here more often! Is there anychance i can get in on this at this late date Giorgio?
If Rob dont want them ill have them .....and my name is Rob Too! LOL
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Right rob says he wants them so that theoretically means they are all accounted for.
The Waiting List is as follows -
Phileepe J
Tav
Rob G [Not the rob G as in insight]
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[quote pid=2518 author=giorgio date=1216280792]Right rob says he wants them so that theoretically means they are all accounted for.
The Waiting List is as follows -
Phileepe J
Tav
Rob G [Not the rob G as in insight][/quote]
Just paid for the ones that Rob (Insight) wants now giorgio :D
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Giorgio, can you put me on the waiting list for a set of 3 please?
Cheers,
Richard.
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No idea how to find this Joe character if I am honest <_<[/quote]
i've just sent joe a text, he might not post up till after the weekend though cos he's taking his car to the pod for a rwyb session, with his poly mounts!
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I will add you to the list but to be honest the chance of 3 people deciding they don't want a set is pretty slim.
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Sal -
1. How did you pay as nothing has come on paypal/my bank
2. I owe rob some money so you only need to pay £37
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[quote pid=2542 author=giorgio date=1216378076]I will add you to the list but to be honest the chance of 3 people deciding they don't want a set is pretty slim.[/quote]
if it turns out to be 4 people then add me too, wish I'd said yes on the early posts!
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Just like to say I didnt stop the GB early to be spiteful or elitist.
I wanted it to be as quick and easy as possible. If I was selling them on at a profit then I would of dragged this group buy out for a few weeks over several forums. I announced it on the monday and the cheque was sent out on the Friday.
I would not go as far as to say it was an invitation only GB although people who I know wouldn't mess about were told personally, hence the list being filled overnight.
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Email from the supplier
Hi Giorgio,
Your job has been started and we have 10 parts cast to date. We aim to complete by this time next week. Please advise your delivery address. I must find time to bank your cheque , which is still on my desk !
Kind Regards
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Just to clear this up Giorgio, are you not going to do another group buy in the future for these mounts? Is it because its too much hassle?
Now the company making them have the mould, will they put them into production or is it just this one off batch?
Cheers,
Richard.
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As I said in my first post I only needed 4 people to meet the minimum production requirements. Everything is being done at cost price and I am organising individually posting them out myself.
The people involved are people I speak to outside the forum (except a few). I announced the GB on the Monday and by Friday I had sent the cheque off. This is what I wanted from a GB. No 'im getting paid next week' etc.
When i spoke to Steve 30 was the maximum that could be produced with the disposable tooling. If we went for any more then tooling costs would be around £120, although unit cost would fall.
I am not going to go into too much detail as to the financial agreement I came to although I doubt they will do many more deals at this price. Its not 'the hassle' I was just collecting money. Although to have to collect over £500 of a dozen people I dont know, then post them out for absolutely nothing really isnt worth my time.
If your willing to make one single payment to me and then organise it yourself then I might be able to sort it out for you.
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Ive spoken to Custom Moulded Polyurethane Ltd and the guy says that they will do another batch. Here is the link to the new group buy. http://www.polog40.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=428
Cheers
Rob
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Spoke to my guy and the order has been completed. Shall be sent out to me in the next few days
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Our order arrived this morning. :wub:
Quite funny how they even have the VW part numbers/stamps copied onto the mould LOL
If you sent me the extra money for postage send me a PM with your address. I am hoping the £3 covers the postage...
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Nobody want them then? addresses people
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i sent you mine didnt i pal?
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everybody who has sent me an address is bagged up ready to go. Pinches I will bag your up tomorrow.
I will be at edition most of the weekend so will take the rest and we can play it by ear
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got mine pal look spot on pleased there not some daft colour.
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^^As above^^ cheers mate!!
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Still waiting for mine mate, pull your finger out ;)