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Technical => Chassis & Braking => Topic started by: djtez on December 27, 2009, 07:23:39 pm

Title: Did anyone ever produce an aftermarket rack?
Post by: djtez on December 27, 2009, 07:23:39 pm
I was wndering if anyone made a short throw steering rack?
as i'd much prefer my steering to be more snappy.!
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Post by: polo classic on December 27, 2009, 11:11:00 pm
300 mm steering wheel is much cheaper
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Post by: jez1272gt on December 28, 2009, 11:19:19 am
300 mm steering wheel is much cheaper

Probably not much cheaper if you factor in a decent momo or similar wheel and a fitting boss. Circa £150 new. I dont know if any one has ever produced a quick rack but a smaller steering wheel will only give you sligthly quicker steering in terms of hand movement, it wont get your vehicle in any tighter than a standard wheel.
Title: Re: Did anyone ever produce an aftermarket rack?
Post by: djtez on December 28, 2009, 11:24:53 am
Thts a shame because i think the polo suffers from a lot of steering rotations..
my friends manta has quick rack and is simply far better...
i wonder if any of the genius's on here could fabricate one ;)
Title: Re: Did anyone ever produce an aftermarket rack?
Post by: djtez on December 28, 2009, 05:10:56 pm
got ppp setup :)
wishbone converson.. with kw's
polybushd arm's..

the polo holds well in the front end.
the back not so much..
if a had a quicker rack then i could catch lift off oversteer , whch g40's suffer badly from, alot easier..
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Post by: Nick_S on December 28, 2009, 05:20:35 pm
Might be worthwhile investing in an LSD or ATB diff then to compliment those other mods ;D
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Post by: lance on December 28, 2009, 05:51:28 pm
or stop full on lifting off...
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Post by: cheddarcheese on December 29, 2009, 12:08:24 am
is there any way to modify the original? 
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Post by: bbspolo on December 29, 2009, 04:45:35 am
Has no one ever looked  into making some sort of inderpendant rear suspention to replace the rear beam on g40's??
I know of a chap who makes a setup for the fwd escorts much like the maxi escorts used to run?

If i could find the pics ive got somewere id show what i mean!
Title: Re: Did anyone ever produce an aftermarket rack?
Post by: polo classic on December 29, 2009, 09:33:20 am
seen pictures of it many moons ago, on a berg cup car
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Post by: bbspolo on December 30, 2009, 08:03:45 pm
yer its a big thing to do if ur serious on the fwd escort thing as they suffer from lift of understeer with big hp and track sorted suspention!

Trying to find the pics i have of it but struggling!
Title: Re: Did anyone ever produce an aftermarket rack?
Post by: djtez on December 31, 2009, 04:19:30 pm
i have cup gear box with lsd :)
polo is just so rear end happy and sometimes it just snakes up the road till it straightens its self
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Post by: hardchargin40 on December 31, 2009, 10:59:29 pm
Triangulate and turret the rear axle.  Can also sort a better rear arb setup similar to nick wilson's setup. 

Also look into spring rates at the rear if your suffering lift off oversteer... that or read the road ahead so you shouldn't have to.  Being fast is being progressive - learnt that on a high performance course many moons ago, lol.
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Post by: benh999 on January 01, 2010, 03:35:54 pm
yup, progressive driving combined with right car = quickest from A to B ;)
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Post by: djtez on January 02, 2010, 06:04:23 pm
triangulate ..? ftom rear hub to roughly middle of beam . . i'msure a long time ago isaw that on club polo
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Post by: cheddarcheese on January 04, 2010, 05:12:38 pm
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss70/mk2sp/Rearaxle5.jpg)
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Post by: hayesey on January 04, 2010, 06:34:13 pm
hmm! whose car is that?
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Post by: jez1272gt on January 04, 2010, 07:25:23 pm
^^^^ Thats a dude thats over on ClubGTI.com who's building a mk2 berg cup 'style' motor.... Sure its fine iirc hes got a build thread over on cgti anyway..
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Post by: lance on January 04, 2010, 10:50:16 pm
i was thinkin summat like on this arosa for mine,

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii119/lalben/fully-fitted.jpg)

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii119/lalben/droplink2.jpg)

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii119/lalben/droplink1.jpg)
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Post by: jez1272gt on January 04, 2010, 11:49:53 pm
Not a bad idea that lance, do you know if there are any roll bars that would be near the correct size in terms of fitment to a polo axel?

The triangular set up that is shown would still be superior in my opinion and give much better control over axel stiffness due to such fine tuning of the tension, however it would be harder to engineer than the arosa set up and probably only something that a true track car would gain any real benefit from!
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Post by: cheddarcheese on January 05, 2010, 06:24:32 pm
so a triangular setup would help! is there any reason why no one has done it yet on a polo as it cant be that hard i quess????


http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=191964

and that's the link to mk2sp mk2 golf build on clubgti.
Title: Re: Did anyone ever produce an aftermarket rack?
Post by: cheddarcheese on January 05, 2010, 06:35:00 pm
pictures from (goof mk2 race car build on clubgti) http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187561 (http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187561)

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/goofVW/P1010039-1.jpg)
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/goofVW/P1010001-1.jpg)
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/goofVW/P1010003.jpg)
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/goofVW/P10100282.jpg)
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/goofVW/IMGP0031.jpg)
Title: Re: Did anyone ever produce an aftermarket rack?
Post by: jez1272gt on January 05, 2010, 06:48:49 pm
is there any reason why no one has done it yet on a polo as it cant be that hard i quess????


Im sure one of the old timers could tell you it probably has been done in the past but i guess its not a main stream modification due to the fact its quite a lot of hassel for what might only be a tiny improvment on an everyday car, if you are preparing your polo for the track then it might be something to look into though..
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Post by: Yoof on January 05, 2010, 09:00:35 pm
I know of a polo with a triangulate rear axle  ;) :P

Main pain in the arse on the Polo is you need a centre exit exhaust... which means getting rid of the spare wheel well. If there's demand Polo PP could do it as a kit/exchange axle basis. But due to the other changes needed, I guess 99% of people don't want it.

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Post by: giorgio on January 05, 2010, 11:54:17 pm
that design on the rolf is the official vag rally/race upgrade. I have an etka schematic one one of the comps/laptops/hard drives so I can stick it up if needed.

I know heg123 triangulated his rally car. His blog thing on club polo has the pics.
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Post by: cheddarcheese on January 06, 2010, 02:00:26 am
Shit did not think about the exhaust kinda annoying as my G40 is a track car and ill have no problem with removing the spare wheel well but i just brought a full ppp system!
Title: Re: Did anyone ever produce an aftermarket rack?
Post by: djtez on January 06, 2010, 02:32:23 pm
I also paid for ppp exhaust system and dont wanna go back.
could thre be made a strut brace to fit from hub to hub on the rear with ppp exhaust in mind..
Title: Re: Did anyone ever produce an aftermarket rack?
Post by: jez1272gt on January 07, 2010, 09:47:19 am
I have an etka schematic one one of the comps/laptops/hard drives so I can stick it up if needed.

Would be interested in seeing that if you can find it....
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Post by: Yoof on January 07, 2010, 02:36:53 pm
Shit did not think about the exhaust kinda annoying as my G40 is a track car and ill have no problem with removing the spare wheel well but i just brought a full ppp system!

I'll have a measure up once I get my car back then if a few people want them...

Not sure how to sell it, as an axle exchange (very expensive to post) and all axles would need to be straight, aquablasted, and then welded, then coated/painted.

Or the easier option, sell it as a kit of parts- but would require somone competent to weld them on.

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Post by: vwmk3jon on February 03, 2010, 04:33:50 pm
Sounds interesting  ;)