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Technical => Chassis & Braking => Topic started by: supercharged spaniel on June 23, 2009, 08:47:55 am

Title: g40 bottom arms
Post by: supercharged spaniel on June 23, 2009, 08:47:55 am
are they still available from vw?  if not anyone tried those ones over on g laderseite?  they seem ok but are more expensive than vag by the looks of it.
Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: jez1272gt on June 23, 2009, 08:58:19 am
I dont think that they are available from VW anymore (not 100%). Either way quite a few people go for the G-laderseite ones and ive heard no bad about them yet!
Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: PeteG40 on June 23, 2009, 09:08:08 am
As far as I'm aware they are about £70 each from vw. Its the steering arms that are obsolete.

I used a set of tcas from ebay (vw surprisingly) fro £20 then polybushed them for about £50.  £70 all in!
Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: supercharged spaniel on June 23, 2009, 09:29:17 am
thats not bad that like. will hve a think about it..im gonna be spending some money a lot of things seem to be cropping up at once.
Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: Robin on June 23, 2009, 08:38:56 pm
I think you can get them from VW, i got mine about september time and they had 5 pairs in stock at VW UK but once these go thats it!

I got a spare pair at the unit for a rainy day!
Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: GSBellew on June 29, 2009, 03:14:54 pm
They are still available, I have a set on the way this week out of the UK stock so there are less than 5 left now. Although when they run out will they not still be available from Germany?  ???

My local VW dealer said there was stock there as VW Ireland have none in stock it would have taken a week ex Germany.

They were around £ 75ish each

Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: Nick_S on June 29, 2009, 04:34:29 pm
When VW in Germany are getting low, they start to preserve stocks by insisting on a genuine G40 chassis number placed with the order. That was certainly the case when i got one of the last sets of steering arms about 18 months ago.
Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: hayesey on June 29, 2009, 05:13:22 pm
When VW in Germany are getting low, they start to preserve stocks by insisting on a genuine G40 chassis number placed with the order. That was certainly the case when i got one of the last sets of steering arms about 18 months ago.

seems an odd thing to do, I wouldn't have thought VW gave a toss who buys them as long as they pay the bill.
Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: Nick_S on June 29, 2009, 05:21:31 pm
I think it stems from things like Golf Rallye grilles and headlights flying out of the warehouse, and OE nutters complaining there aint non left for them to repair bumps.

VW motorsport certainly do it if you want G60 limited parts, albeit for the 71 mk2's they built.
Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: scotsjohn on June 29, 2009, 10:09:39 pm
Same experience for me. Reason I was given is VW trying to stop bastards buying up hard to get parts then screwing folk when VW run out. If that's so then I'm up for it. It's VW's new caring face maybe. lol
Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: Fred on June 30, 2009, 01:11:22 am
Recently priced them at VW at £75 each all in.

If your track control ball joints are good then replace with Superflex
Poly bushes.

I`ve seen track control arms go for £12 each or less on ebay and a full superflex
Poly bush setup is £50.90p wich includes the G40 specific inner rose joint bush
Wich should be an improvement on the stock arms.

See Pics below and website link.

http://www.superflex.co.uk/results.php?maker=50&man_name=Volkswagen&searchmodel=264&Search=Go

 
Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: PeteG40 on June 30, 2009, 08:16:45 am
the centre bush isn't a rose joint there, but is on g40 TCAs, hence why people prefer them.

Saying that I've used superflex on my white g and i do like them. but then again i'm an old man who only uses his car on the road and the roads are sh1t around here.  So some people might prefer harder bushes.
Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: hayesey on June 30, 2009, 09:28:39 am
Same experience for me. Reason I was given is VW trying to stop bastards buying up hard to get parts then screwing folk when VW run out. If that's so then I'm up for it. It's VW's new caring face maybe. lol

that's nice of them!  Maybe they do care about older cars after all.

Yeah the inner joints on g40 arms have spherical bearings in them rather than rubber bushes, hence the cost of them.  I've only ever had normal TCAs with poly bushes on my car though.  Although I'm currently looking into getting some adjustable length bottom arms with spherical bearings possibly in place of both bushes (or maybe just nylon bushes in the outer ones).
Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: Fred on June 30, 2009, 11:34:02 am
To be fair i new it wasn`t exactly the same but thought it a good bet on standard arms.

Anybody got a G40 arm with Knacked ball joint so i can investegate them.

If it can be pressed out that is.

We have some solid red Polyurethane bar from  www.directplastics.co.uk

and thought it worth a bash at machining some bushes as we have a good Harrison T300 lathe.

Fred.
Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: PeteG40 on June 30, 2009, 12:12:56 pm
depends on the hardness of the poly really..
Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: Nick_S on June 30, 2009, 12:20:51 pm
Superflex look like the type of company who may be interested in making some PU bushes for the steering arms, seeing as the OE G40 version is obselete now.
Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: PeteG40 on June 30, 2009, 01:38:01 pm
they do - but i emailed them and never got a response.

Same for PU engine mounts or rear axle bushes.

Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: Nick_S on June 30, 2009, 02:04:22 pm
Money talks, so i think we'd need to get a group buy with confirmed numbers before Superflex might start looking into tooling, moulds etc.
Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: PeteG40 on June 30, 2009, 03:40:32 pm
well I did say that we have a number of people willing to test a batch and a significant of interest in the engine mounts at least.
Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: Tommo on July 03, 2009, 03:31:59 pm
depends on the hardness of the poly really..

You can machine polyurethane no problem, its like cheese. Whatever grade it is it certainly wont be too hard to machine. The most annoying thing is that it dosent break up as swarf and it all wraps around your tool. Surface speed want to be around 120 m/min and you want a very sharp tool.
Title: Re: g40 bottom arms
Post by: Fred on July 04, 2009, 11:34:22 am
Thats what i`m on with Tommo.

We recently got hold of a Harrison T300 Lathe wich is a godsend to my
Myford super severn.

I hadn`t done any Real Lathe work since school and got the Myford about a year
and a Half ago.

Learn`t alot with it and feel comfident enough to have a go having made Pulleys,
Some lovely steering bosses, Threaded parts, allsorts really.

The Harrison is a Really good Lathe and is a lot easier to set up than the Myford.
Did screwcutting on it last week with success, though i practiced on alloy 1st.

Got to know a man at an engineering firm in one of the units near to Taylor bends
where i sometimes work and he is at his Colechester Lathe day in day out and
really knows his stuff.

Chatted to him about it and he gave me a run down on machining Rubber, Nylon,
Poly and the likes.

We have the gear so may as well have a go.
Does anybody know what they use to make the moulds as i wondered if it was
possible to machine those as well.

Fred.