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Technical => Electrical => Topic started by: gavin.starr on May 26, 2011, 11:35:29 PM

Title: Where do these plugs go. Now no spark
Post by: gavin.starr on May 26, 2011, 11:35:29 PM
I think the one with the thick red wire goes to the plug that goes off underneath to the starter motor.


But the other I'm stumped.

Title: Re: Where do these plugs go.
Post by: DKnight on May 26, 2011, 11:41:58 PM
yeah top one mounts on that bracket normally next to the throttlebody, i think. But you should have an empty wire somewhere?

the other brown wires could be your coolant sensor, but not quite sure on the location form the pic
Title: Re: Where do these plugs go.
Post by: genesisGT on May 27, 2011, 01:15:41 PM
what dan says.

top one looks like the middle one on the inlet manifold next to the lambda connector.
bottom one i would say is collant sensor on the bottle.
Title: Re: Where do these plugs go.
Post by: stu g4T on May 27, 2011, 02:07:56 PM
Without looking at a car, the bottom one looks too spaced apart to be a sensor and I thought brown wires were generally Earths.
Is it not a connector related to Earths that sits on the plate to the right of the inlet manifold when looking at the engine?

Again could be completely wrong, I've got 2 wiring looms and both are nowhere near cars to check at the moment!
Title: Re: Where do these plugs go.
Post by: gavin.starr on May 27, 2011, 02:21:34 PM
Quote from: stu g4T on May 27, 2011, 02:07:56 PM
Without looking at a car, the bottom one looks too spaced apart to be a sensor and I thought brown wires were generally Earths.
Is it not a connector related to Earths that sits on the plate to the right of the inlet manifold when looking at the engine?

Again could be completely wrong, I've got 2 wiring looms and both are nowhere near cars to check at the moment!

There is no spare place for the plug in the last pic to go on that rail. I have looked through the (show me your engine bays) thread and it looks like it goes to the top of the expansion tank but my car doesn't have this sensor there.

I have plugged all the remaining wires into place, apart from the co-pot (as i haven't got one yet) I wanted to see if i was getting a spark, which im not, does this co-pot need to be plugged in for the ECU to recognise before it will issue a spark or not?
Title: Re: Where do these plugs go.
Post by: stu g4T on May 27, 2011, 05:10:19 PM
Are you doing a G40 conversion?

That would explain why you don't have the sensor on your coolant header tank.
The lower spec cars didn't have the sensor on the header tank.

As for spark, I don't think the CO pot needs to be plugged in in order for a spark, but I'm sure someone that knows a lot more can correct me!
Title: Re: Where do these plugs go.
Post by: gavin.starr on May 27, 2011, 06:29:41 PM
yea im doing a conversion.

Can any one help with regards to not getting a spark.

Would it make any difference that i swapped over all the wires for a g40 set from the bulkhead. I dont think so but just thought i may ask.
Title: Re: Where do these plugs go.
Post by: extreme6 on May 27, 2011, 06:33:12 PM
brown wires are for expansion bottle and red/blue  blue starter motor feed on inlet  manifold
Title: Re: Where do these plugs go. Now no spark
Post by: extreme6 on May 27, 2011, 06:39:22 PM
check your coil loom as there are two plugs which are identical if you plug the wrong one in hence no spark i done the same thing and had no spark.
Title: Re: Where do these plugs go. Now no spark
Post by: gavin.starr on May 27, 2011, 06:48:12 PM
I cant seem to find an identical plug on the coil loom. there is only the one that is anywhere within reaching distance.

Title: Re: Where do these plugs go. Now no spark
Post by: extreme6 on May 27, 2011, 07:01:21 PM
just checked my car that wiring looks bang on to me so that cant be your problem could be your dizzy or coil.
Title: Re: Where do these plugs go. Now no spark
Post by: gavin.starr on May 27, 2011, 07:12:24 PM
Cheers fella.

Why cant things just be straight forward  >:(. The coil is brand new so i cant see it being that but ill check the dizzy. The plug that goes into the top of the dizzy (hall sender) i think is there any way of checking that this is giving out the right signals?
Title: Re: Where do these plugs go. Now no spark
Post by: gavin.starr on May 27, 2011, 07:59:16 PM
figured it out.

No dizzy arm  ::), but now my battery is flat.
Title: Re: Where do these plugs go. Now no spark
Post by: gavin.starr on May 27, 2011, 08:51:59 PM
now sparking, but doesnt want to run. whats the timing secuence? just so i can double check.
Title: Re: Where do these plugs go. Now no spark
Post by: PeteG40 on May 27, 2011, 09:08:23 PM
1342 anti clockwise from  9 oclock on dizzy
Title: Re: Where do these plugs go. Now no spark
Post by: gavin.starr on May 27, 2011, 10:28:24 PM
so as your looking at the engine bay number 1 is on the furthest left.
Title: Re: Where do these plugs go. Now no spark
Post by: Fred on May 29, 2011, 11:08:42 AM
Yeah! Number one cylinder is next to timing belt.
Title: Re: Where do these plugs go. Now no spark
Post by: dub-disaster on May 30, 2011, 10:55:51 AM
Quote from: gavin.starr on May 27, 2011, 06:48:12 PM
I cant seem to find an identical plug on the coil loom. there is only the one that is anywhere within reaching distance.


what are the plugs on the right hand side of this picture for as Ive got the female socket in the loom but don't know where to put it what does the connector attached to the metal holder go to ??