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Technical => Engine and Transmission => Topic started by: Justin14100 on December 02, 2009, 09:10:32 AM

Title: Oil coming up the dipstick?
Post by: Justin14100 on December 02, 2009, 09:10:32 AM
What are the reasons that this happens, im not sure if its high crank case pressure (i did clean out that breather at the back of the engine and it hasnt made a difference) or high oil pressure. its done 170k now so could that be the rings?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Oil coming up the dipstick?
Post by: grayg40 on December 02, 2009, 10:04:37 AM
mine did this last year and it was rings. do a compresion test and you will find out if one is lower than the rest.
Title: Re: Oil coming up the dipstick?
Post by: Justin14100 on December 14, 2009, 02:37:25 PM
anyone know what sort of miles the rings start going at?
Title: Re: Oil coming up the dipstick?
Post by: Justin14100 on December 14, 2009, 03:19:02 PM
Ah right, what should i expect from a compression test if they are blowing?
Title: Re: Oil coming up the dipstick?
Post by: Nick_S on December 14, 2009, 10:12:45 PM
Anything 9 Bar or below is cause for concern.
Title: Re: Oil coming up the dipstick?
Post by: Justin14100 on January 12, 2010, 11:04:59 AM
OK. well it wasnt the breather so did a compression test yesterday on a cold engine and resuts where!

1. 120psi
2. 150
3. 140
4. 150   (aproximate values dont remember specific)

so did no.1 again and it went to 150psi. what does that say about the rings? anything else that would cause high crank case pressure?


Thanks!
Title: Re: Oil coming up the dipstick?
Post by: PeteG40 on January 12, 2010, 11:06:19 AM
valve in the oil pump being stuck... this happened to the hayes i think
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Post by: hayesey on January 12, 2010, 11:08:54 AM
that caused excessive oil pressure yeah but it made the oil light and buzzer go mental.  Try a compression test with a hot engine.  Plus are you sure the breather isn't blocked still?  There's two parts, the plastic valve and the actual metal breather pod on the engine block.  Plus check the condition of the rubber pipes, if they are perished and have gone all soft they might be closing themselves up.
Title: Re: Oil coming up the dipstick?
Post by: Justin14100 on January 12, 2010, 11:35:00 AM
Quote from: hayesey on January 12, 2010, 11:08:54 AM
that caused excessive oil pressure yeah but it made the oil light and buzzer go mental.  Try a compression test with a hot engine.  Plus are you sure the breather isn't blocked still?  There's two parts, the plastic valve and the actual metal breather pod on the engine block.  Plus check the condition of the rubber pipes, if they are perished and have gone all soft they might be closing themselves up.

Took off the breather pod and have it a blast on an airline + carb cleaner. No oil buzzer or light at all, apart from on some loooong slip road where the oil moves across in the sump! had new breather pipe + boost return pipes this year too. plastice valve got some carb cleaner and airline too
Title: Re: Oil coming up the dipstick?
Post by: scotsjohn on January 12, 2010, 10:20:35 PM
Are you seeing a lot of pressure/fumes when you take of the oil filler cap? I was thinking along the lines of worn valve stems and seals.
Title: Re: Oil coming up the dipstick?
Post by: Justin14100 on January 12, 2010, 10:26:29 PM
not that i have notice'd will check again tomorrow though. always just seemed fine whenever i have checked it
Title: Re: Oil coming up the dipstick?
Post by: grayg40 on January 13, 2010, 10:06:39 AM
it might be your head gasket is gone across into an oil port.
Title: Re: Oil coming up the dipstick?
Post by: Justin14100 on January 13, 2010, 10:18:34 AM
Quote from: grayg40 on January 13, 2010, 10:06:39 AM
it might be your head gasket is gone across into an oil port.

There is a weepy corner on the left hand side, would this say anything?
Title: Re: Oil coming up the dipstick?
Post by: PeteG40 on January 13, 2010, 12:33:26 PM
only the alternator if it gets clogged up with oil.
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Post by: Yoof on January 13, 2010, 01:37:34 PM
I've often thought this is related the block flex- always the same corner (engine mount/charger side) irrespecitve of type of gasket, decked block, skimmed head etc.

As Pete says- only downside is the alternator getting smothered in oil- plus side is the underneath of your car will never rust!
Title: Re: Oil coming up the dipstick?
Post by: Dirty Slag on January 30, 2010, 12:02:12 PM
Easiest way to work out if your rings are shot is to do a compression test then do it again but this time put a few sperts from an oil can in the cylinder before you screw in the compression tester if the readings are alot higher you can pretty much guarantee its rings or bore wear!
Title: Re: Oil coming up the dipstick?
Post by: scotsjohn on January 30, 2010, 01:02:36 PM
Send that to the as yet un-started top tips corner.
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Post by: Tommo on January 31, 2010, 10:20:17 PM
Yeah.

Plus, as someone has alreads stated, if you take off the oil filler cap when the engines running you shouldnt get much blowing out of it. If its breathing like hell then its probably the rings.
Title: Re: Oil coming up the dipstick?
Post by: lance on January 31, 2010, 10:23:40 PM
thats not the same on all engines though, most bmw engines wont even run without the oil cap on.
Title: Re: Oil coming up the dipstick?
Post by: Yoof on February 01, 2010, 07:41:14 PM
Usually to do with breather systems that rely on a negative crankcase pressure- if managed by the ECU they get the hump quite easily.