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Technical => Engine and Transmission => Topic started by: Alex on May 13, 2009, 12:34:23 AM

Title: Should there be a spring on the clutch lever on the gearbox
Post by: Alex on May 13, 2009, 12:34:23 AM
Sorry, probably wrong terms there.

The 8P box I ran for a while came with a clutch return spring on it, which I don't remember the ATV or my old AHD box having. It goes between the casing and the lever which the clutch cable attaches to. Should this be there?
Title: Re: Should there be a spring on the clutch lever on the gearbox
Post by: supercharged spaniel on May 13, 2009, 01:24:41 AM
yes mate it should  ;)
Title: Re: Should there be a spring on the clutch lever on the gearbox
Post by: G40supercharged on May 13, 2009, 08:10:39 AM
There is no spring if you have the original automatically adjusting clutch cable (I think all Mk3's originally came with the auto cable). You need a spring if changed to a manual adjust cable.
Title: Re: Should there be a spring on the clutch lever on the gearbox
Post by: PeteG40 on May 13, 2009, 08:24:27 AM
i agree with g40 supercharged

only pence from vw too!
Title: Re: Should there be a spring on the clutch lever on the gearbox
Post by: Alex on May 13, 2009, 09:34:09 AM
Cool, ok thanks.

Only reason I ask, I've got the spring and my clutch pedal is really stiff. Pretty sure I've got a genuine VAG cable, if they're both sprung would that make the pedal stiff?
Title: Re: Should there be a spring on the clutch lever on the gearbox
Post by: G40supercharged on May 13, 2009, 01:17:08 PM
I think the return spring just stops the arm flapping about - it doesn't add much pedal effort compared to the massive diaphram spring in the clutch cover plate (although a badly worn cable can make it stiff). When I first got my G40 the clutch was on the way out and the pedal was really heavy. I replaced the friction plate and release bearing and it was much better (even though I still had the original cover plate). If the clutch release arm is all the way towards the front of the car the friction plate is worn down.
Title: Re: Should there be a spring on the clutch lever on the gearbox
Post by: Alex on May 13, 2009, 01:19:19 PM
Hmm, new clutch might not be helping then. I've got a spare clutch cable at home, might try fitting that.
Title: Re: Should there be a spring on the clutch lever on the gearbox
Post by: hayesey on May 13, 2009, 01:22:36 PM
what clutch have you got fitted?  The uprated plates that come with helix clutch kits have stronger springs in them which makes the pedal quite heavy.
Title: Re: Should there be a spring on the clutch lever on the gearbox
Post by: breadman on May 13, 2009, 05:44:26 PM
Quote from: hayesey on May 13, 2009, 01:22:36 PM
what clutch have you got fitted?  The uprated plates that come with helix clutch kits have stronger springs in them which makes the pedal quite heavy.

It'd be an uprated cover that would increase pedal effort as opposed to the clutch plate itself.
Title: Re: Should there be a spring on the clutch lever on the gearbox
Post by: Dan on May 13, 2009, 05:55:30 PM
Pete, whats the part number ? ! Can't for the life of me find that spring on ETKA !
Title: Re: Should there be a spring on the clutch lever on the gearbox
Post by: PeteG40 on May 13, 2009, 06:11:02 PM
084  141 741 A

i think
Title: Re: Should there be a spring on the clutch lever on the gearbox
Post by: Dan on May 13, 2009, 06:51:07 PM
Thanks ! I'll run the number by my dealer  :)
Title: Re: Should there be a spring on the clutch lever on the gearbox
Post by: hayesey on May 13, 2009, 06:56:42 PM
Quote from: breadman on May 13, 2009, 05:44:26 PM
Quote from: hayesey on May 13, 2009, 01:22:36 PM
what clutch have you got fitted?  The uprated plates that come with helix clutch kits have stronger springs in them which makes the pedal quite heavy.

It'd be an uprated cover that would increase pedal effort as opposed to the clutch plate itself.

yeah I meant the cover plate!
Title: Re: Should there be a spring on the clutch lever on the gearbox
Post by: Alex on May 14, 2009, 12:38:49 AM
It's a Helix uprated one, that'll be the reason then!
Title: Re: Should there be a spring on the clutch lever on the gearbox
Post by: jez1272gt on May 14, 2009, 09:55:16 AM
yup they tend top be pretty heavy when new - it will ease up a little...
Title: Re: Should there be a spring on the clutch lever on the gearbox
Post by: xrrich on September 07, 2011, 06:59:07 PM
Any one got a picture of this, my clutch is extremely heavy and i dont have a spring, but not really sure where it should go.

Are the self adjusting ones no good then?

Thanks
Rich
Title: Re: Should there be a spring on the clutch lever on the gearbox
Post by: ereeiz on September 08, 2011, 06:12:29 PM
Ahhhhhhhh...... didn't know about this, I swapped to a manual cable at the weekend and found my pedal is getting progressively worse (squashy is about the best description I can come up with) and feels like the clutch is on its way out.

I'll have a gander, see if I can spot this spring.
Title: Re: Should there be a spring on the clutch lever on the gearbox
Post by: xrrich on September 08, 2011, 06:45:37 PM
Yeah same with mine swapped mine month or two back pictures will be great of how it should look..

:D