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Technical => Chassis & Braking => Topic started by: gaz g40 on October 21, 2013, 05:53:59 PM

Title: Wilwood brake lines or fittings
Post by: gaz g40 on October 21, 2013, 05:53:59 PM
Got a set of midilites an never thort of brake flexis what are you guys using?
Thanks
Title: Re: Wilwood brake lines or fittings
Post by: Yoof on October 22, 2013, 08:13:32 AM
Got HEL to make mine up for the whole car, cost about £130 or so, extra line as I'm running a bias valve too.

Bloke called Ben from memory, they advertise on Club GTI.
Title: Re: Wilwood brake lines or fittings
Post by: gaz g40 on October 22, 2013, 08:24:03 AM
Cheers mate il get onto them and see what they can do. Would i require running a brake bias? Only for road use?
There a nice bit of kit though too good to fit!
Title: Re: Wilwood brake lines or fittings
Post by: hayesey on October 22, 2013, 09:22:22 AM
watch out though the fitting in the caliper will be imperial not metric like most brake fittings are. 

I made an adaptor with a short piece of copper pipe and made a bracket to keep it solid, you can see it in this picture:

http://derby.polog40.co.uk/photos/snapped_cv4.JPG

then the pipes are normal g40 braided flexi pipes.

whether or not you use a bias valve depends on your rear brake setup, it wont affect the fronts.
Title: Re: Wilwood brake lines or fittings
Post by: vee-dub90 on October 22, 2013, 12:26:26 PM
Nice CV Hayesey!

Just a quick question even though its not my thread, but I am soon to get a set of wilwoods too and I am running a disc conversion on the rear and I was going to use a 23mm master cylinder.. would you recommend a bias for the rear or is the standard bias good enough?
Title: Re: Wilwood brake lines or fittings
Post by: gaz g40 on October 22, 2013, 01:49:10 PM
What did the bigget master cylinders come on?
Title: Re: Wilwood brake lines or fittings
Post by: gaz g40 on October 22, 2013, 02:23:16 PM
Dumb question but what size is the polo brake fitting? And what size is the wilwood fitting? So i can write down in my polo book incase
Title: Re: Wilwood brake lines or fittings
Post by: vee-dub90 on October 22, 2013, 03:13:16 PM
Quote from: gaz g40 on October 22, 2013, 01:49:10 PM
What did the bigget master cylinders come on?

I've got an Ibiza Cupra M/C to go on with the spacer.. I am using on my Jetta with a full G60 brake set up and its perfect, also a mate of mine uses one on his 20vt Golf mk2 with Cupra R 4 pots up front and its spot on as the 22mm 16v M/C has too much travel
Title: Re: Wilwood brake lines or fittings
Post by: hayesey on October 23, 2013, 09:05:19 AM
I'd definitely recommend a bias valve if you're using discs at the back or you'll find the rear is over-braked.  Really the standard drums are more than up to the job of giving you enough braking at the back, there's just no weight there to take advantage of anything more.  I use a bias lever in mine, I have 200mm drums on since I replaced all the drums and stuff and the bigger parts were no more expensive.

I use a 22mm master cylinder.

I'm really happy with the brakes on my g40, normally when you get in a g40 after driving a modern daily all the time you think "shit the brakes hardly work!" but in mine it makes the brakes on my daily drivers feel crap.
Title: Re: Wilwood brake lines or fittings
Post by: mark_crox on October 23, 2013, 09:17:03 AM
Do Mk'3s only have one break line going to the rear?

I need to fit a bias valve to mine as the rear is over braked but have 2 lines so I have the fun issue of running 2 bias valves or switching to a single line rear system.
Title: Re: Wilwood brake lines or fittings
Post by: hayesey on October 23, 2013, 09:24:52 AM
no they have two but I replaced all my brake lines so have one to both rears and one line to each front. 
Title: Re: Wilwood brake lines or fittings
Post by: gaz g40 on October 23, 2013, 10:33:36 AM
I havent fitted dics ive kept with drums at the rear as im only using mine in the road so kept standard. Thanks for the info though!
An that CV looked nice aswell hayesey never sin one snappe like that before!
Also anyone know the size fitting that wilwood use an what a polo fitting is for the brake lines?
Title: Re: Wilwood brake lines or fittings
Post by: hayesey on October 23, 2013, 11:22:36 AM
polo is standard 10mm fittings with a metric thread.  Most cars in the uk have used that since the late 70s/early 80s.

Wilwoods use American style fittings which are imperial, I forget the exact size but it's what was the standard imperial size in use here before everything went metric.  If you just buy "imperial brake line fittings" then they'll be right.
Title: Re: Wilwood brake lines or fittings
Post by: PeteG40 on October 23, 2013, 11:34:51 AM
polo is m10x1 i think - which is fine 10mm.
Title: Re: Wilwood brake lines or fittings
Post by: Yoof on October 23, 2013, 12:16:08 PM
Quote from: PeteG40 on October 23, 2013, 11:34:51 AM
polo is m10x1 i think - which is fine 10mm.

Correct- Wilwood stuff is usually 1/8th NPT
Title: Re: Wilwood brake lines or fittings
Post by: gaz g40 on October 23, 2013, 12:53:48 PM
Tidy cheers guys al note that down :)