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Technical => Engine and Transmission => Topic started by: Jezza-7 on October 07, 2009, 09:01:41 pm

Title: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: Jezza-7 on October 07, 2009, 09:01:41 pm
Got a standalone kit now and just wondering what oil is recommended to use in it?

Also could someone detail how to fit it electrically and the kit itself.

Got an idea how but would be great if someone could help.

Cheers
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: hayesey on October 07, 2009, 09:38:57 pm
ideally use a thin oil in it, a decent quality fully synthetic oil is good.

there's a wiring diagram in the FAQ section.
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: scotsjohn on October 07, 2009, 09:41:07 pm
Haysey's put a wiring diagram in electrical faq. I'm using Redline 0-10 which I managed to bum a litre of; with a wee drop of ZX1. Some use compressor oil.
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: Jezza-7 on October 08, 2009, 12:29:20 pm
That is great.

How do you actually fit the tank kit as well?

Like disconecting the old oil feed, do you blank it off etc?
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: hayesey on October 08, 2009, 02:01:08 pm
to disconnect the old oil feed just remove the t-piece and bolt the pressure sensor directly into the head.  You'll need to block up the old return using something with an m10x1mm thread on it, this is the same as metric brake line fittings so a metric brake screw in plug is ideal ( the sort people use for blanking off one of the outlets on a master cylinder sometimes). 
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: Jezza-7 on October 08, 2009, 08:01:24 pm
Ah i see, quite simple then! Cheers!!
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: Jezza-7 on October 09, 2009, 12:26:54 pm
Haysey's put a wiring diagram in electrical faq. I'm using Redline 0-10 which I managed to bum a litre of; with a wee drop of ZX1. Some use compressor oil.


Where can you get redline 0-10?

And what is ZX1?
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: Jezza-7 on October 09, 2009, 07:39:58 pm
I saw some oil today in halfrauds that was compressor oil, it is £5 or something.

Would this be ok to run in the tank? Think it was 10w?
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: scotsjohn on October 09, 2009, 09:25:30 pm
Hi Jez,
        I don't know what the PSD pump's like,I got a pretty cheap affair of e-bay called a Ucal,
 suitable for petrol or diesel pumping at about 5psi but good flow rate. The thinnest oil I could find that it would pump easily was Redline 0-10,it's really purely for track cars and it's pretty costly. Lad at work had some lying unused and kindly donated it. I added 50ml of ZX1 an oil additive I already use for the G. You can get it in Halfrauds. There's probably nowt wrong with compressor oil though, I just felt it wasn't pumping very easily. You pays yer money, takes yer chance really.
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: Jezza-7 on October 10, 2009, 07:25:37 pm
Ok that is a great help to me.

Has anyone got any pictures of there standalone tank's fitted?

Was wondering how the best way is to mount it and what to.
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: hayesey on October 11, 2009, 10:31:40 pm
there's no "best way" it just depends where you have space in your engine bay and where other things are.  Plus where it'll reach to depending on the oil pipes you have with it.  Just make sure it's higher than the pump so gravity feeds oil into the pump.  The pumps psd used were just facet fuel pumps.  Not ideal but they seem to manage to pump thin oil ok.
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: Jezza-7 on October 12, 2009, 11:12:20 am
I have got a facet pump with mine. Found some 0-10 oil by purple racing or someone. Well expensive but i will use that if i cant find any.

There are 2 thin lubricating oils we use at work and im trying to find out there viscosity cause i think they will work. I would say there a little bit thicker then water. Will get hold of some i think and try it in the tank to see how well it pumps.

How have the majority of people fitted there's?

Got the wiring all ready and long enough to fit.

Also how do you mount it?  Got a few ideas, like removing washer bottle for a smaller one then mounting it around that area.
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: scotsjohn on October 12, 2009, 01:05:18 pm
I removed the charcoal canister; and sited the tank there. Just connected the two pipes to it together so fumes get sucked into the engine. The mountng clip for the canister now holds the tank. The pump is mounted below the tank on the inside of the crossmember and a filter is fitted between pump and tank. Being computer illiterate I can't put up any pics but it's a neat tidy solution. Wiring I kept simple with a relayed warning light on the dash in case of pump failure. Couldn't find a pressure gauge that would be accurate at such low pressure.
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: hayesey on October 12, 2009, 01:16:36 pm
I used  fuel pressure gauge with mine
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: Jezza-7 on October 12, 2009, 09:09:44 pm
Well i got some oil from work today, its called om12. Its a runny oil we use for general purpose and lubicating.

So i put it in the tank and earthed it and put it to live to see how well it worked and it worked very well. It pumped it through soo fast.

Got through the tank in about 15 seconds. Maybe a little bit less than that. 

Hopefully i could use this, just need to look at the properties of it.
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: Jezza-7 on October 13, 2009, 05:05:02 pm
Any recomendations on using this oil by redline?

Its the 10WT

http://www.redlineoil-europe.com/motoroil/index.asp?section=Synthetic+Racing+Oils_00009
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: scotsjohn on October 13, 2009, 07:51:50 pm
That's what I'm using by the looks of it. All seems OK for me . The short life they're stating's more than likely for stresses in con-rod bearings knocking the shit out of it. Your charger's not got that problem; rollers/tapered rollers? don't have the same lube problems.
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: Jezza-7 on February 03, 2010, 06:30:57 pm
Hayesey, when you say about the bolt to block the return something like this would be ok?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Brake-pipe-ends-m10-x-1mm-thread-male-10-pack_W0QQitemZ110487373443QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item19b98f8683

Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: hayesey on February 03, 2010, 06:48:35 pm
well they wont do because they are brake pipe unions so have holes through them.  Although I've used one of them filled with solder by heating it with a blow torch before.
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: Tommo on February 03, 2010, 06:53:54 pm
Im guessing you could just use a bolt with the correct thread and a copper washer?
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: Jezza-7 on February 03, 2010, 06:55:00 pm
Ok i will try find the right threaded bolt or try your idea. I think i might have some at work. Will take my thread gauge tomorrow.
Title: Re: fitting standalone oil tank
Post by: hayesey on February 03, 2010, 07:13:44 pm
yeah just any m10x1 bolt with a copper washer will be reet