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Title: I want one of this in my G40, can anyone say me... NEW INFO INSIDE
Post by: demoG40 on October 24, 2008, 10:33:26 pm
How i have to do?
It´s bad to the engine?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIrAcSHWgnk

greetings to all
Title: Re: I want one of this in my G40, can anyone say me...
Post by: vwmk3jon on October 24, 2008, 11:18:44 pm
Just sounds like he's got the boost return mod to me UNLESS hes running a turbo in which case thats a dumpvalve.
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Post by: hayesey on October 25, 2008, 10:29:57 am
that's just had the boost return pipe removed.
Title: Re: I want one of this in my G40, can anyone say me...
Post by: demoG40 on October 25, 2008, 11:44:40 am
I can not understand how to do that.
I do not have turbo, I have compressor G.
I can put a blow off?
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Post by: superchargedpolo on October 25, 2008, 11:46:16 am
Yeah a boost return mod.  Have a look at this clip of my old motor with said mod carried out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5SYx4cS424

Oh and it has toothed pullies. Beast!!!
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Post by: hayesey on October 25, 2008, 03:39:27 pm
you dont need a turbo or a blow off valve, the normal boost return valve makes that noise if you remove the boost return hose.
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Post by: demoG40 on October 26, 2008, 01:57:16 am
you dont need a turbo or a blow off valve, the normal boost return valve makes that noise if you remove the boost return hose.

can say me more about this please??
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Post by: jimbugalee on October 27, 2008, 09:06:00 am
I loved the boost return in my old G ..... oh, I'm such a chav lol
Title: Re: I want one of this in my G40, can anyone say me...
Post by: demoG40 on October 27, 2008, 09:12:24 pm
What and where is the boost return hose?

If I remove it, the engine will work ok?
Say some me please.

Title: Re: I want one of this in my G40, can anyone say me...
Post by: hayesey on October 27, 2008, 09:27:32 pm
it's the hose that goes from the left hand side of the throttle body, through the rocker cover and onto the right hand side inlet on the charger.  Just remove the two bits of hose, make a metal plate to block off the right hand charger inlet, put the oil breather pipe into a catch tank and that's about it.  You'll also need to get some proper ptfe grease to spray into the charger every now and then.  We sell it but I'm guessing you aren't in the UK so postage is going to be a problem.  You can see the stuff we sell on here:

http://www.polog40.co.uk/merchandise.php

Title: Re: I want one of this in my G40, can anyone say me...
Post by: demoG40 on October 27, 2008, 09:38:40 pm
Hayesey thanks!
No, I´m not at UK, i´m in Spain.
The PTFE I try to buy here, but I don´t know how I have to do with that hose.
It is in the G?
Excuse, but I don´t want to broke my engine or my G.
Nobody have a picture of a engine with that does???

I'm sorry but I do not want to be heavy ruin my engine and I want to be sure of what I do before touching anything
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Post by: Alex on October 28, 2008, 01:16:45 am
Mine's had it done - notice the 'charger's blanked off on the one side and you can see my crankcase breather hose going up under the expansion tank on the right.

(http://members.aol.com/krupaspace2/006.jpg)
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Post by: vwmk3jon on October 28, 2008, 05:47:12 pm
That looks mint alex.

I've got the BRV mod done on mine now coz i like the noise of a sneezing chipmunk under my bonnet! lol.

I've just gotta find a way of linking the said breather pipes upto my catch tank. The pipes are huge and the inlets of the tank aren't!
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Post by: Alex on October 28, 2008, 06:52:51 pm
Not bad when you consider it's a conversion. :)
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Post by: PeteG40 on October 28, 2008, 08:34:27 pm
1" water pipe has been used by plenty to good effect - with a tank obviously having a 1" inlet.  We might be able to supply 1" water pipe if anyone is having an issue getting any

pete
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Post by: Alex on October 28, 2008, 09:56:38 pm
Yeah I need to stop being lazy and actually fit my catch tank.
Title: Re: I want one of this in my G40, can anyone say me...
Post by: demoG40 on November 03, 2008, 06:50:26 pm
with respect to what this mod, that there are improvements to the engine? there is any?
or just the simple sound?
I need to make sure good of everyone and as I have to do before you start disassembling anything
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Post by: demoG40 on November 03, 2008, 08:21:07 pm
Alex did you delete the pic?????
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Post by: Alex on November 03, 2008, 10:11:53 pm
No ???

FFS - just tried to find the file again and it seems AOL Hometown (where all my old pictures are stored) shut down last week. Nice of them to warn me. >:(

Here's the picture again.

(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v80/190/69/543845537/n543845537_466644_9833.jpg)
Title: Re: I want one of this in my G40, can anyone say me...
Post by: demoG40 on November 03, 2008, 10:34:11 pm
Thanks!

I think i am ready to do that!
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Post by: vwmk3jon on November 09, 2008, 10:57:17 am
its not a problem sourcing pipe i'm having. Brought a catch tank off ebay a while ago and its (crapely) mounted to the bulkhead. Unless i'm looking at the wrong pipe (probably!), it just seems way too big to connect to the inlet of the tank.

I'll have another look at some point when its not too windy and get a pic.
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Post by: breadman on November 09, 2008, 11:16:16 am
Unfortunately Jon, lots of the cheap catch tanks off ebay have tiny inlets, 10mm is not uncommon. That may be fine for a bike engine, but most older car engines (our Polo's being one of them) need 19mm / 3/4" od pipes.
Title: Re: I want one of this in my G40, can anyone say me...
Post by: demoG40 on November 19, 2008, 08:51:27 pm
   
Well guys, I got the car in a garage, so I'm painting everything.
When I pick up (next Monday) I will start to make the boost return mod.
Thanks to your explanations as already doing so.
But looking for more information on the Internet, I found something really interesting.
There is no need to put fat in spray every X km.
Taking advantage of a tube with a return of gas / oil that comes from the carter, is the function of lubrication of G.
I leave with you a picture.
(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7245/img0075ac3.jpg)

What do you think about it?
Title: Re: I want one of this in my G40, can anyone say me... NEW INFO INSIDE
Post by: supercharged spaniel on November 19, 2008, 08:57:24 pm
good idea but doesnt the pressure from the charger and boost pipes make the vapours flow to that area and back to the charger?..dunno just a thought...never done the boost return mod so not thought too much about it..
Title: Re: I want one of this in my G40, can anyone say me... NEW INFO INSIDE
Post by: G40supercharged on November 20, 2008, 01:27:35 pm
There will always be a relative vacuum at the inlet to the charger so connecting the pipe as shown in the picture will work OK while still giving some lubrication to the charger. The plastic one way valve near the engine end of the breather pipe should be removed. 'Positive' crankcase ventilation relies on the crankcase being connected to low pressure to draw out the gases; it's normally done by using inlet manifold vacuum. The problem with the normal boost return on a G40 is that when you come off the throttle all of the high pressure air in the inlet pipes is dumped out through the bypass valve. The high pressure pulse goes back down the breather pipe and can pressurise the crankcase forcing oil out of the dipstick.  I think the plastic one way valve is supposed to prevent this but it's prone to blocking up and isn't quite 'one way' either. When you come off boost excess air will actually come back out of the air filter with the normal setup (ideal for cleaning the K&N).

Title: Re: I want one of this in my G40, can anyone say me... NEW INFO INSIDE
Post by: demoG40 on November 20, 2008, 08:41:08 pm
supercharged spaniel, are you spanish??
g40supercharged, i don´t understand exactly your reply, excuse me, i use a translator but don´t understand fine you say me, sorry.

How i say to do, it´s good or bad?
i read in some forums, that idea is goodest cuz the G don´t need "external" lubircation...

Excuse me, i don´t want to be heavy, but don´t want to broke my loved G.

If you can say me more "simply"...

Really thanks TO ALL!
Title: Re: I want one of this in my G40, can anyone say me... NEW INFO INSIDE
Post by: supercharged spaniel on November 21, 2008, 12:09:06 am
no im not spanish?! 

in a few words it seems your idea will be fine..not something i would do however as your idea does nothing but give you the woosh/dump noise that you want..nothing more than that in my mind
Title: Re: I want one of this in my G40, can anyone say me... NEW INFO INSIDE
Post by: Max on November 21, 2008, 08:53:04 am
supercharged spaniard  :D
Title: Re: I want one of this in my G40, can anyone say me... NEW INFO INSIDE
Post by: demoG40 on November 21, 2008, 12:17:04 pm
no im not spanish?! 

in a few words it seems your idea will be fine..not something i would do however as your idea does nothing but give you the woosh/dump noise that you want..nothing more than that in my mind

ok that´s right.
maybe i will do with "my" idea.
can say if this form is bad for any part of engine/compresor??

I only want that sound, and the G are lubricated, no more
Title: Re: I want one of this in my G40, can anyone say me... NEW INFO INSIDE
Post by: G40supercharged on November 21, 2008, 11:29:24 pm

ok that´s right.
maybe i will do with "my" idea.
can say if this form is bad for any part of engine/compresor??

I only want that sound, and the G are lubricated, no more

The idea in the picture will not do any harm to the engine or the G charger. It is the same as standard except it will make the sound. The boost return pipe was put there by VW to stop the sound!
Title: Re: I want one of this in my G40, can anyone say me... NEW INFO INSIDE
Post by: demoG40 on November 22, 2008, 08:43:57 am

ok that´s right.
maybe i will do with "my" idea.
can say if this form is bad for any part of engine/compresor??

I only want that sound, and the G are lubricated, no more

The idea in the picture will not do any harm to the engine or the G charger. It is the same as standard except it will make the sound. The boost return pipe was put there by VW to stop the sound!

THANKS THANKS THANKS!! REALLY THANKS YOU!!