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Club G40 => General Car Chat => Topic started by: L8r on September 01, 2008, 06:35:34 pm

Title: Pub figures.
Post by: L8r on September 01, 2008, 06:35:34 pm
Hey guys.

A guy on our local boards has been telling some pub figures about his g40.
I know nothing about the cars so have no idea if hes pulling my leg.

He,s claiming over 230hp. 0-60 sub 4secs and a top speed over 160+

I just wondered what sort of a spec list you would need to acheive thoose standards?
And is there anyone on here that has?

Thanks for you time.
Ash.
Title: Re: Pub figures.
Post by: wozzaG40 on September 01, 2008, 07:22:14 pm
only about two cars on this forum that have that sort of power

One has an Eaton conversion
The other is a turbo conversion
Both are heavily tuned

not sure on the 0-60 time but that seems a bit steep to me and the top speed well that seem a bit steep to lol

The spec list you would need would be massive, im sure someone will post one up for you.

Unless his name is Yoof then he isnt liying lol
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Post by: supercharged spaniel on September 01, 2008, 07:29:50 pm
not one i've seen before.  is it running the standard g40 charger? or a eaton? or turbo even as wozza said?
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Post by: supercharged spaniel on September 01, 2008, 07:30:37 pm
i spy fmic mind so its a start...fair few bits after that mind to get those figures.
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Post by: wozzaG40 on September 01, 2008, 07:36:55 pm
cant say i have ever seen that before, where abouts are you based?
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Post by: L8r on September 01, 2008, 07:43:31 pm
East mids/Nottingham.

As of yet no spec has been mentioned just the above figures.
Thanks for your help guys.

Any clue as to what sort of a mods list you would need to be pushing that sort of Hp?
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Post by: supercharged spaniel on September 01, 2008, 07:49:35 pm
[quote pid=3737 author=L8r date=1220294611]East mids/Nottingham.

As of yet no spec has been mentioned just the above figures.
Thanks for your help guys.

Any clue as to what sort of a mods list you would need to be pushing that sort of Hp?[/quote]

erm...extensive block work, head work..turbo or eaton conversion, faster flowing injectors, remap, four branch manifold, decent exhaust system, larger intercooler...and most likely more stuff that i'm not 100% sure about.  a g40 isn't hard to get to around 150-60bhp not much after that and your arse hole gets sore and wide unless you really know what your doing and even then it aint gonna be cheap for good quality parts......
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Post by: wozzaG40 on September 01, 2008, 07:58:10 pm
Eaton charger
1341cc JE Forged Pistons
Lightened & Balanced Bottom End
Jabba Sport Big Valve Head
PSD Eaton Cam
Red Injectors
Paddle Clutch
GT Inlet Manifold
Modified TB for TPS

just for a start
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Post by: L8r on September 01, 2008, 08:03:55 pm
Wow,

thanks very much for your quick replies chaps.

If anyone would like to have alook at this for themselves here is the thread on my local cruise site.
(Think youl have to register to view)

http://www.cruisenotts.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12443&st=0

Ash,
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Post by: supercharged spaniel on September 01, 2008, 08:04:59 pm
need to be a member mate.  any chance you can extract some of it for us?
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Post by: supercharged spaniel on September 01, 2008, 08:07:37 pm
i've registered but its one of them daft forums where you have to wait for a mod to accept you?  shite.
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Post by: L8r on September 01, 2008, 09:11:31 pm
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Just been on the phone with the seller, and it's getting mot'd etc asap and i'll be going down on sat to put the deposite down, it's ran a 0-60 in 4.1 and ill try and get some printouts and paperwork off him this weekend to get it uploaded, if not ill have to go and do some runs, even tho I'll be way off the pace since the current owner is a very very good driver compared to myself.

Regarding the engine, all I know so far is the basics, everythings been done that can be done such as forged pistons, racing inlet etc etc etc, again should find out the full spec list this weekend  

Regarding the Black G60 from Wollaton, he lives next door to my girlfriend  very nice and very quick, he cleans his wheels with a toothbrush!

As for work that needs done, just needs some TLC some parts need respraying such as the drivers side door, but the front end is alot cleaner in person, the picture really does it no justice!

Just a nice upgrade from the Saxo! which I must admit, isn't very hard but it's a good jump in the right direction
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Post by: AlexG40 on September 01, 2008, 11:19:46 pm
4.1............
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Post by: DKnight on September 02, 2008, 01:40:13 am
hmmm
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Post by: PeteG40 on September 02, 2008, 08:29:08 am
g40 gearboxes runout in the 150s mph wise before the engine hits like 8k rpm so i doubt its a g40!!! or he's liar!
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Post by: hayesey on September 02, 2008, 12:56:39 pm
you can get 153mph at the stock rev limiter in fifth if you have enough power to get that far so I don't see why 160 wouldn't be possible with an increased rev limiter.  But it'll need to be one hell of a spec.
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Post by: Alex on September 02, 2008, 01:55:45 pm
I don't believe you'll hit 60mph in 4 seconds in a G40. To be honest, I reckon even the best chassis and a front wheel drive car will struggle to get the power needed to accelerate like that transferred to the tarmac. Bear in mind a Porsche 996 Turbo will do the same sprint in 4.2 seconds.
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Post by: giorgio on September 02, 2008, 02:55:14 pm
with a 5th gear ratio of 0.740 the car is capable of over 170mph @ 8000 rpm.

At what point does our doorstop figure become an issue?

Alex - Didn't Ash Philpot run a 4.3second 0-60 time
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Post by: PeteG40 on September 02, 2008, 04:23:52 pm
i stand corrected!!!!
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Post by: AlexG40 on September 02, 2008, 06:02:51 pm
[quote pid=3775 author=giorgio date=1220363714]

Alex - Didn't Ash Philpot run a 4.3second 0-60 time[/quote]

In what?  I don't doubt you you acheive the power to wieght ratio in a Mk3 Polo to acheive 4.1 but I don't think you could launch it. I reckon you'd have a 5 something to 60 and a very fast 0-100 & quarter mile.
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Post by: giorgio on September 02, 2008, 06:20:02 pm
[quote pid=3782 author=AlexG40 date=1220374971] I reckon you'd have a 5 something to 60 and a very fast 0-100 & quarter mile.[/quote]

I think thats the crux of it.

Although a good driver should really be able to put the power down. Anybody know Pete's 60ft times from his 13.1 run?
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Post by: Tav on September 02, 2008, 10:09:29 pm
4 seconds to 60mph in a G40...I can't see it myself.

I had the pleasure of spending a couple days with this:

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...and this:

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The Porsche with the aid of launch control, 530bhp and 325 section sticky Michelin Cup tyres managed to post the following times using a GPS measuring device: 4.0/3.8/3.9/4.1/4.1/4.2  The Lamborghini was a smidge faster with the aid of 4WD and 560bhp.  

A G40...  LOL
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Post by: wozzaG40 on September 03, 2008, 09:28:49 am
If my £100,000 + supercar got spanked by an 18 year old polo i would definately take it back lol.
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Post by: Tav on September 03, 2008, 01:13:19 pm
It's never going to happen with those two cars to be fair...and if it did then it'd only ever be in a straight line for a short period of time.
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Post by: supercharged spaniel on September 03, 2008, 05:47:19 pm
LOL why its all full of shit.  i signed up to see this joker talking about it...

'Current figures are - approx 220-235bhp, 0-60 has been done in 4 seconds flat and has done 160mph, not to shabby for a 1.3! '

'Forgot to add, it's 1 of 4 gunmetal gray G40's left in the Uk, if not mistaken. '

surely not..im nearly 99% positive i know more than that off the forums....


'Charger has been done recently'

so its a G lader then?  so someone is talking total shit?   LOL

we all know the power is possible..but most of us know that that power with a g40 G lader is pushing it and we ALL know for certain that 4.1 secs to 60 without an lsd and running a G lader is the biggest pile of crap....

some people  <_<
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Post by: L8r on September 03, 2008, 05:49:53 pm
Te he,
Just spotted your replie over there.

Hope this made an entertaining little thread for you guys  :wub:

Ash,
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Post by: supercharged spaniel on September 03, 2008, 05:56:50 pm
[quote pid=3829 author=L8r date=1220460593]Te he,
Just spotted your replie over there.

Hope this made an entertaining little thread for you guys  :wub:

Ash,[/quote]

well yeah actually its amazing what people will say just to look 'cool'  to be fair its probably not that lad buying its the joker feeding him the shite.i'd be the first to be impressed if all is true but its unlikely.
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Post by: lance on September 03, 2008, 06:05:21 pm
yea if thats all true he can give us all tips.....
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Post by: L8r on September 03, 2008, 06:08:31 pm
Yeah i know exactly what you mean,

I wanted a G40 myself for years as a teenager and love the dub scene.
Shame by the time i could afford to insure one it ment i could also afford 2ltr+ Turbos.
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Post by: supercharged spaniel on September 03, 2008, 06:11:04 pm
[quote pid=3833 author=L8r date=1220461711]Yeah i know exactly what you mean,

I wanted a G40 myself for years as a teenager and love the dub scene.
Shame by the time i could afford to insure one it ment i could also afford 2ltr+ Turbos.[/quote]

doesnt mean they are out the question...many g40's will give many bigger cc engined stuff a run for their money thats the fun of them.
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Post by: Alex on September 03, 2008, 11:46:09 pm
And even a lot of stuff that's quicker on paper lacks the urgency of a G40. IMHO it's not that relevant how quick a car actually is compared to other stuff, half the time it's how it makes you feel. That's what I've found anyway.
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Post by: Tav on September 04, 2008, 01:21:35 pm
[quote pid=3845 author=Alex date=1220481969]And even a lot of stuff that's quicker on paper lacks the urgency of a G40. IMHO it's not that relevant how quick a car actually is compared to other stuff, half the time it's how it makes you feel. That's what I've found anyway.[/quote]

That's the reason to own them, maximum smile factor.
Title: Re: Pub figures.
Post by: vwmk3jon on October 13, 2008, 10:22:59 pm
^^^ definately. I'd love to see 220odd bhp from a G-lader. Life expectancy of charger must be silly short before needing a rebuild.
Title: Re: Pub figures.
Post by: G4O LP on October 16, 2008, 02:57:01 pm
Everyone here = FAIL that figure is perfectly possible with a G-lader shame it would be of the 60 variety rather then the 40 but its definitley possible as for 0-60 in 4 sec? Has this guy been sanctioned under a certain health act yet? Again 160 is "scientifically" possible but I would like to see a GPS reading 160mph on a G40, would also take someone brave to take a G40 up to 160.

Plus bhp figures are for people with small cocks anyway at the end of the day anyone remember milko doing a 13.9 in a 140bhp G40?
Title: Re: Pub figures.
Post by: polo classic on October 17, 2008, 03:09:41 pm
7180 rpm in 5th equals 160 mph with 175/60-13 and standard ATV box.

220 bhp is not difficult in a 1,5L G60
Title: Re: Pub figures.
Post by: Andy on October 17, 2008, 10:51:25 pm
7100rpm in 5th = blown lader seals. Turbo FTW. :D
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Post by: giorgio on October 18, 2008, 07:12:07 pm
would also take someone brave to take a G40 up to 160.

no would take an incredibly stupid person to go that fast.

Although caged up and with some proper aerodynamics I would give it a punt ;D
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Post by: vwmk3jon on October 18, 2008, 11:26:53 pm
so would i but the road/airfield would have to be nice and smooth! Wouldnt want the car bouncing all over the shop at that speed! 000
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Post by: polo classic on October 20, 2008, 10:43:08 am
7100rpm in 5th = blown lader seals. Turbo FTW. :D

Nah, they do not blow until 16000 rpm on the charger, eg 8K rpm with a 65mm pulley
Title: Re: Pub figures.
Post by: Andy on October 20, 2008, 12:30:54 pm
Should've told that to my lader.  ;) ;D