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H&R Coilovers / H&R cup kit, help me decide

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G-spot:
Well if there the same Eibach springs I got then my phase one tweek will be 10mm lowering caps, before I go down the route of a full 60mm drop.  If your in no rush I'll let you know when I get around to it(it may be a while though), I'm running 14's so I'm not expecting any rubbing issues.

breadman:

--- Quote from: GSBellew on October 03, 2008, 01:58:01 pm ---Very interesting and informative reply, thank you  :)

I am still torn on the issue though.

The reason I am leaning towards coilovers is to set the ride height just exactly as I want it, its too high at the front in my opinion on the current koni & eibach setup, but then I am concerned that the 60mm the H&R cup kit drops it may be just too low in the end  ???

The wheels I have on at the minute are 15" BBS RM's if I end up too low chances are I'll have rubbing issues.

Its purely a weekend car and will see very little day to day use, when its finished its likely to be summer use only so the coilovers seizing should not be a problem as they are never going to get dirty  :D

It is an awfull lot of extra money, but on the other hand its cheaper to do it right once rather than having to do it twice?

I've been having this debate with myself for nearly a year now trying to decide  :o :-[

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Yeah 15" wheels on G40's can be a problem. Trying to find tyres that are wide enough with a low enough profile to keep the rolling radius very near standard is almost impossible. TBH, 13" or 14" wheels are far better suited to the G40 with regards to tyre choice and fitment.
I still reckon the Cup kit would be the best option. The rear can be set at either 60 or 40mm down, so you have a choice there. Its only the front you may have a clearance issue with, the arch liners are often the first part a tyre will rub on so these can easily be removed. However, unless your tyres are vastly different in R.R. you should be absolutely fine.
Remember, its only the adjustability that you are paying all the extra money for. The springs are still just springs and the dampers still dampers. If you set it up initially so your happy with the ride height and looks of the car, will you ever use the adjustment again? Summer use or not, they will get dirty!
If you wanted to get the best out of your G40 and were a regular at different track days and events then it would make them a far more worthwhile purchase.
A subframe/wishbone setup and H&R Cup kit with all new poly bushes would make a superb setup for similar money to just the coilovers on their own but with everything else left standard. I know how I'd sooner spend £800!
I'm not against coilovers at all, its just it's a huge amount of money to spend in relation to the value of the car if its only the ride height you're worried about.
Good luck which ever you choose.
Richard.

G-spot:
If anyone is looking for the above kits, then there are several on European ebay, and interestingly I noticed a few different ride hieght combinations for both the G40's and other 86c type set-ups. Worth a look if your happy buying from our German ebay friends.

G-spot:
Just to add to the above post, I now realise that the different kits are the sport kits and the comfort kits, anyone got any info on the comfort kits as so far I think we've been discussing the sport kits.

Varley:
I couldn't agree more with the breadman, cup kit is ideal for the road unless you absolutely need the adjustment, which I personally don't feel I do if you take out the rubbing issue.

I've found my cup kit to be ideally suited to road driving, firm but not excessively so, and my subframe/wishbone setup and it's easily the best £500 odd I've ever spent on the G without a shadow of a doubt, definately a killer handling combo.

I'm also running 15" wheels (ATS cups) and they don't rub any more, although it did take a few stabs at the arches to clear everything properly. I agree that 14's are strictly speaking a better choice for ultimate handling but presumably like yourself I just love the look!

I reckon the bbs's should cause you far fewer problems at cup kit ride height than I had as they should be the correct offset which mine are not.

Hope this helps.





 

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