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Technical => Chassis & Braking => Topic started by: z3i on February 13, 2014, 09:38:22 pm

Title: wheel and tyre size
Post by: z3i on February 13, 2014, 09:38:22 pm
suppose this is the right section
im getting some 14 x 6.5j wheels (proper retro looking)
i love the slightly stanced but motorsport look, no wheel arch gap, wheels spaced out to match the arches, track day tyres with a nice tyre wall bulge, see it alot on older jap cars

im going to be getting some stud conversions for my hubs and some sweet jap spec wheel bolts, already got some spacers to space these wheels right out and ive got gaz coilovers to lower it right dow

but im stuck on tyres, i like the track day looking ones with not much printing on the walls (had kumho v70a's and they wernt very asthetically pleasing) anyone know any semi road legal slicks with a nice tyre wall?

also unsure of what size to get for that nice bulged tyre wall. i hate stretch but dont want too much wall or it will look like an off road car
theres not many 14" tyres on the market, so asking if anyone has any decent pics of what they have so i can get some rough ideas

sorry if this is the wrong forum to post this on lol, but i want her looking good and different
cheers peeps!!!
Taylor

http://www.rusker.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/oc3.jpg

The lower one is the exact tyre size im looking for
http://www.dragtimes.com/images/7438-1973-Datsun-240z.jpg
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: Alex on February 13, 2014, 10:20:02 pm
Probably not as bulged as you want, but this is a 195/45 on a 14x6in wheel with Gaz coilovers. It's a starting point, at least.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/423549_10151340898240538_1171195819_n.jpg)

On a 14x6.5J wheel you probably want 215/40 or 215/45 - if they exist.

Track tyres don't tend to come in profiles that low. Or they don't as far as I've found.
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: z3i on February 13, 2014, 10:48:36 pm
thanks alex, actually im really glad you posted that as i had 195/45 in my mind, and yeah its not quite as bulged as i would like, let alone on a 6.5 rim
you can get 225/60 r14 but i think that will be a huge bulge
going from this pic im thinking maybe 215/50 r14? maybe?
thanks dude
any other pics like this of other sizes would be greatly appreciated :)
Taylor
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: z3i on February 13, 2014, 10:52:56 pm
also that wheel arch gap is perfect, you get much scrubbing? my gaz coilies have 250lb springs so im hoping i can go low, unwind the damping have minimal scrubbing and still retain nice handling :)
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: Alex on February 13, 2014, 10:57:42 pm
No scrubbing, but I'm on 275lb springs at the front if memory serves.
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: PeteG40 on February 13, 2014, 10:57:54 pm
http://www.polog40.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9653.0


Check sams car the silver oz are 185 50  on a 6" rim
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: z3i on February 13, 2014, 11:05:07 pm
Thats decent!!!

the 50 profile is nice! hmmm, ok maybe 195/50? what tyres are they? the side walls looks nice. i like sams, if it was spaced out inline with the arch rather than tucked, be perfect :)
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: Alex on February 13, 2014, 11:07:25 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t31/p180x540/1553123_10153728463185538_553245801_o.jpg)

That's 195/45 on a 14x6.5

Forgot about that earlier. D'oh!

I reckon you'll need 205 or 215 width tyres to get any sort of bulge on a 14x6.5
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: z3i on February 13, 2014, 11:11:10 pm
Oh the silver ones!? i was looking at the white ones in the lower pic!
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: PeteG40 on February 13, 2014, 11:13:39 pm
The white ones have khumo track tyres. .. no idea of aize but he might come on 22nd
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: z3i on February 13, 2014, 11:14:51 pm
Cheers alex! :D
that looks pretty good actually!
either 195/50
or 205/45? slightly wider tyres or slightly larger wall?
found a few sizes

195/55 r14 is size they make
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-x-195-55-14-R14-82V-Toyo-Proxes-T1-R-Performance-Road-Tyres-/301079307805
thats a dam good price too!!!

http://www.blackcircles.com/tyres/brands/toyo/proxes-t1-r/215/45/R15/V/84/f?gclid=CLnCmsCdyrwCFXGWtAodWj8AWg

it appears the semi slicks come in stupid sizes like 225/50 r14 and are £550 lol
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: Alex on February 13, 2014, 11:25:34 pm
That's a chunky old tyre, 195/55. I know it doesn't sound like much of a difference to what I posted earlier but it'll look quite different.

As it happens, these are the same wheels with 195/45s:
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/shawnray77/wats.jpg)

More likely to cause you some clearance issues, too.
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: z3i on February 14, 2014, 12:03:00 am
ah that looks perfect! i like it :) yeah probably lol
they are 195/45? they look very different yo your wheels with the same size?
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: samg40 on February 14, 2014, 02:16:35 pm
For clarity in my thread the oz's are running 185/50/14 yoko a539's and the white Compo's are running 185/55/14 khumo track rubber. The only time I got scrubbing on these was going through charlies and coppice at speed around Cadwell.

Be aware though if you are going marginal on tyre size the brand can affect it massively. I remember swapping from khumos I think to Toyo T1S years ago on a 195/45/15 and got a lot less scrubbing swapping to the rounder shoulder Toyo tyre.
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: Jester on February 14, 2014, 07:06:48 pm
Falken 195/45 on 14X6 are good, Yokohama AO48 195/60 would suite a 6.5/7.5 but with quite some bulge?
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: PeteG40 on February 14, 2014, 07:26:13 pm
Sam's car does have rolled/pulled arches too!

185/55/14 on stock arches rubs on the front bad on a 6x14 et 35 rim down 60mm from stock polo!  195/60 would barely turn!
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: Alex on February 14, 2014, 07:28:54 pm
ah that looks perfect! i like it :) yeah probably lol
they are 195/45? they look very different yo your wheels with the same size?

I wrote that while I was tired. Those are 195/55 on a 14x6.5
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: z3i on February 14, 2014, 08:43:34 pm
Cheers Sam, I don't want to roll my arches, only non rotten ones I've had!!

Looks like I'm gonna be getting some major scrapage
195/60 would be too much!
Seen a pic of petes car on 195/45 toyo's and the bulge seems a bit more to my liking, more rounded and motorsport like
The kumho's were awesome, but they had no bulge at all, was just like a flat side wall, think they were 175/60

Toyo do a really good deal 4x 195/45 r14 for £250!!!! Found some from a good company
Or 195/55 r14 in another make, think they both look decent.
The toyo's seem to have a bit more of a bulge even for a smaller size
Thanks for the pics people
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: PeteG40 on February 14, 2014, 08:47:10 pm
that pic i sent you mate - was 1954514 yokos!  slightly bigger profil than toyos
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: z3i on February 14, 2014, 09:00:12 pm
Yoko's my mistake, that means that deal I found :(
Ok going to go for 195/45 yoko, shouldn't be that much more expensive :)
Minimal arch gap, wheels studs with some cool ass nuts and spaced right out, reckon it will look awesome!
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: Jezza-7 on February 15, 2014, 11:44:14 am
Talyor my tyre size is 195/45 with a 60mm drop at the front, 40 rear.

The only problem i get is slight scrub on full lock with the stage 3 frame.

I was looking into these for a few track days, reckon they will be scrubbing then?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271379697389?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Think my alloys are ET38 14" 6J
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: Andy on February 15, 2014, 01:07:08 pm
5mm spacers should sort the frame, depending on your geometry.
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: z3i on February 15, 2014, 01:35:53 pm
They look epic jezza!! Love the tread pattern on the r888 too! Just a shame they are nearly £500 for 4!! Might save up. Would have some epic grip! I couldn't fault the track day kumho's I had when I went round Switzerland, even in the wet the grip was phenomenal!! Suppose that's the difference between road and track tyres

Yeah that's cool, I've got 5mm spacers for the front and 20mm for the back anyway, and if that's not enough I will be getting bigger ones
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: z3i on March 04, 2014, 10:29:22 am
Ordered 195/45 r14 toyo proxes, £250 from jjc race and rally, bargain! The wholesale people we use for work could only go down to £350!!
They look awesome! Exactly what I was after :) the side wall is great! Cheers peeps
I'll get some photos up :)
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: markg40T on March 04, 2014, 12:42:00 pm
Jezza,

I have them on my g40, they are an insane amount of grip and you can get them in different compounds i have the mediums.

they are cheaper from ears online.
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: Jezza-7 on March 04, 2014, 01:12:08 pm
Cheers mark, will have a look into them.
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: z3i on March 04, 2014, 01:51:12 pm
You on about the kumhos?
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: Jezza-7 on March 04, 2014, 03:20:02 pm
Dunlops i think.

What tyre size are they mark?
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: z3i on March 06, 2014, 09:43:39 pm
Alex, what spring rate you got on the rear? Mine scrubs :( even jacked right up
Title: Re: wheel and tyre size
Post by: markg40T on March 17, 2014, 11:05:46 pm
If a rember right they are 185 55 14