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Club G40 => General Car Chat => Topic started by: lance on April 01, 2009, 09:58:21 pm

Title: alloy rad group buy
Post by: lance on April 01, 2009, 09:58:21 pm
anyone interested will be lookin at around £250.
(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn210/lance_m45/alloyrad.jpg)
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: vwmk3jon on April 02, 2009, 10:55:49 am
maybe interested. WIll the original fan and mount work with it?
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: cheddarcheese on April 02, 2009, 12:22:31 pm
not at 250quid no.
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: hayesey on April 02, 2009, 02:06:22 pm
yeah that's a bit too steep for me too really.  I think I'll stick with just rooting around a scrapyard for a bigger non-bling rad!
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: lance on April 02, 2009, 05:19:51 pm
might be cheaper than 250 dono yet and yea it willbe exactly the same as a polo one.
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: Robin on April 02, 2009, 10:55:05 pm
oooo £250 thats alot

i'd like one but i would only be able to spend like £50 on it lol!

i'll stay with my pikey shitty original one
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: lance on April 03, 2009, 01:24:04 pm
got an email back 160 plus vat for a run of 10.
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: jez1272gt on April 03, 2009, 06:44:22 pm
Thats not so bad really. Not sure if getting 10 together will be that easy though?

Maybe put up a feeler group buy?!
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: supercharged spaniel on April 05, 2009, 10:33:09 pm
Why are they better? Just lighter and unlikely to corrode?
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: Fred on April 06, 2009, 08:47:17 am
I would of thought that being bare alloy it will rot as quick as any,
especially if winter salt gets at it.
If i wer to get 1 then i`d find a mate who works where they
anodise and get it done.
£160 + 15% vat aint too bad really as what does an original
cost from Vag these days.

Fred.
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: hayesey on April 06, 2009, 09:17:23 am
Why are they better? Just lighter and unlikely to corrode?

aluminum is a better conductor of heat so just the material is more efficient than copper.  Also the size and amount of tubes going through it is important too, these have a lot of smaller tubes than a standard rad which means more tube surface area which means it's able take more heat out of the water.
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: poloeatonm45 on April 07, 2009, 03:07:52 pm
I need one of these but i aint got a job at the mo booo :'(
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: jez1272gt on May 20, 2009, 09:05:44 am
bump recon we should consider getting this going again if we can get the numbers up... interest anyone?
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: poloeatonm45 on May 20, 2009, 08:46:11 pm
very interested in this. let me know if it goes ahead

steve
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: sinister polo on May 20, 2009, 08:55:09 pm
il have one if a group buy happens!
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: jez1272gt on May 20, 2009, 10:48:23 pm
Well that would make 6 then, me thinks that getting 10 together wouldnt be too hard as long as people are serious about committing to it...
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: poloeatonm45 on May 21, 2009, 11:39:24 am
well as long as the price stays as it count me in for 1 100% sure

steve
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: lance on May 21, 2009, 02:00:11 pm
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Westfield-VW-Polo-Alloy-Radtec-Universal-Radiator_W0QQitemZ160328536246QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item160328536246&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1121%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A50
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: poloeatonm45 on May 21, 2009, 04:30:48 pm
thats the one i was looking at but not at that price.

steve
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: hayesey on May 21, 2009, 05:11:50 pm
well I don't think they'll come much cheaper than that.  Lance seemed to be talking of £250.

All these people saying "yeah I'll have one", have you actually looked at the price?  ;D
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: poloeatonm45 on May 21, 2009, 09:33:28 pm
yeah i agee your right 250 is too much but earlier in the post he says he could get them for 160 for a group buy of 10 witch i dont think is too bad really if is saves me melting a piston or even just helps keep my car a little cooler im happy

steve
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: sinister polo on May 21, 2009, 10:02:30 pm
i second that!

£250 for a rad is a bit steap, but £160 i can stretch to!
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: hayesey on May 21, 2009, 10:28:57 pm
ah I must have missed the £160 bit!  Prob not THAT much more than a new GT/G40 rad from wv?
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: jez1272gt on May 21, 2009, 11:17:24 pm
ah I must have missed the £160 bit!  Prob not THAT much more than a new GT/G40 rad from wv?

I have £141.55 on my copy of ETKA, not sure how true that is though. If an alloy rad comes in at < £200 on a group buy then it would be well worth it for me personally.
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: lance on May 22, 2009, 01:13:39 pm
yea i emailed them and thats what price they got back to me with.
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: poloeatonm45 on May 22, 2009, 01:28:28 pm
yea i emailed them and thats what price they got back to me with.

so are you looking at setting up a group buy ?

steve
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: lance on May 22, 2009, 02:18:09 pm
got too much on at the min wanna see what temp mine runs at with the new setup.

someone else is more than welcome to set one up if they want.
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: poloeatonm45 on May 22, 2009, 04:54:16 pm
right i,ve emailed the guy today and he has confirmed 165 each for a batch of ten, im waiting to get a postage cost from him but could anyone that is seriously interested in an alloy rad for their g40 put their names down on this list. im not saying this group buy will go ahead as i have never do this before but i will try if their is enough interest, but lets just see if we can get 10 orders first.

steven


1) poloeatonm45
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: sinister polo on May 22, 2009, 06:47:50 pm
1) poloeatonm45
2) sinister polo
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: poloeatonm45 on May 24, 2009, 10:58:20 am
i knew that price sounded too good to be true he has just sent me another email to tell me that price would be plus vat witch would take the price up to around 189 and then they would be postage on top of that of around 10 to 15 quid witch would take it too over 200 so im not going to bother with the group buy sorry too allthe people interested but it is just too much

steve
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: breadman on May 24, 2009, 03:09:16 pm
Why are they better? Just lighter and unlikely to corrode?

aluminum is a better conductor of heat so just the material is more efficient than copper.  Also the size and amount of tubes going through it is important too, these have a lot of smaller tubes than a standard rad which means more tube surface area which means it's able take more heat out of the water.

I've just been looking at my G40 and mk2 radiators. They aren't the old copper core jobbies used on very old cars but alluminium. Obviously they were manufactured with cost in mind as opposed to the higher efficiency core used in the Radtec ones but they are at least ally. Obviously the end tanks are plastic, but I'll be sticking with my O.E. type one.
Personally I would never pay for a new genuine VAG one, but check out Felgenhaus on ebay. A large German based company, they sell the G40 specific radiators (code no. KVW 092) for £45 plus £15 postage. I'd be interested to see if there was any real difference in the quality between a genuine VW radiator and one of theirs? I bet there isn't.
 
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: PeteG40 on May 24, 2009, 07:49:41 pm
there is actually - the felgenhaus ones have a std, not g40 core - hayesey got one.
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: breadman on May 24, 2009, 08:48:53 pm
I wasn't aware that there was a specific core make up?
Apart from the difference in size and end tanks, my G40 rad looks to have exactly the same core as my late mk2 one?
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: Nick_S on May 24, 2009, 09:12:38 pm
It's the core design which gives the G40 slightly more efficient cooling than the standard model rads.
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: breadman on May 24, 2009, 09:32:06 pm
Ah right, I'll have to inspect them closer then!
I'll still get a Felgenhaus one anyway. For that money you can't go wrong IMO.
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: hayesey on May 25, 2009, 04:00:41 pm
the proper gt/g40 cores have smaller tubes and more of them giving a greater tube surface diameter in total which = more efficient cooling.  The difference is obvious when you have the two next to each other and look at the cores.
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: poloeatonm45 on May 26, 2009, 08:59:19 am
so can you still by proper g40 rads? i heard that when you buy them from vag they are just a standard core with the g40 smooth end tanks

steve
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: hayesey on May 26, 2009, 09:31:37 am
dunno about that, the one I boiught a while ago off ebay had smooth end tanks but the non-g40 core.  It was listed an a genuine new one.  It's possible that that's what you do get at VW nowadays I'm not sure.  For the price of them I doubt anyone buys them though.
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: Nick_S on May 26, 2009, 07:57:34 pm
so can you still by proper g40 rads? i heard that when you buy them from vag they are just a standard core with the g40 smooth end tanks

steve

I doubt VW recon radiators; they leave that up to the pattern manufacturers. Coupled with their high price, i would assume they are OE spec.
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: supercharged spaniel on July 01, 2009, 05:19:36 pm
Just for the record a genuine vag rad for a g40 is 92 quid plus vat... Gonna order one to replace the already weeping one I bought from gsf about 2 years ago.. Gsf parts really are cack...IMO
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: hayesey on July 01, 2009, 09:15:32 pm
when you get it Dan, can you take a decent quality picture of it?  I'm interested to see what the core is like on new VW ones now.
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: lance on July 01, 2009, 11:05:52 pm
yea x2 please dan cheers.
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: supercharged spaniel on July 03, 2009, 12:08:39 am
yeah defo lads yeah...i reckon itll be mid august time but yes i will...  ive got a long list of stuff im replacing at the minute the rad included...
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: Dan on July 03, 2009, 08:53:45 am
I've had one for a while, will take a pic after this weekend
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: G4O LP on July 11, 2009, 11:53:13 am
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Radiator-VW-Polo-86c-1-3-G40-Turbo-man-11-90-9-94-NEW_W0QQitemZ260050843906QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3c8c3cf902&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1689|293%3A1|294%3A50

Would this rad be any good for a high powered g40?
Title: Re: alloy rad group buy
Post by: hayesey on July 11, 2009, 08:34:07 pm
no!  It's the same guy I bought one off a couple of years ago, it appears to be a refurbed radiator as it doesn't have the proper gt/g40 core, it has the normal core with fewer, bigger tubes.  So less cooling effect than a gt/g40 one :(