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Offline Merrick

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Camshaft!! Which is best?
« on: September 29, 2014, 11:03:57 am »
Hi guys, I've been looking at camshafts for a while now and seem to just be getting more undecided. Mods I've done are as follows 65mm pulley, jabba sport chip to suit, r1 charger, air filter, de-cat, full Jetex exhaust, de-wedged throttle body and I think that's it engine wise.
Which is best schrick, Newman or piper? I Use the car everyday so don't want something that's too crazy but still want a decent gain. Hope you can help!!!!

Offline Andy

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Re: Camshaft!! Which is best?
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2014, 12:49:46 pm »
If you're looking at the normal asymmetric G40 'sport' cam or equivalent in each range, there's not much to choose between them performance wise IMO. Piper do a lairy rally cam (BPE300H if memory serves) which gives a great performance gain if you don't have much regard for supercharger or valvetrain lifespan - or are willing to upgrade parts accordingly. I'd suggest it's really only for competition car use though!

In terms of quality/finish of the parts, Schrick are the best (and most expensive), Piper occupy the middle-ground with Newman being the cheapest. Newman parts are perfectly serviceable though, I have one on my own car.

Offline Merrick

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Re: Camshaft!! Which is best?
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2014, 12:59:34 pm »
Thanks for that!! I think I'm swaying towards newman or schrick, been reading that some people have had to grind down parts of there head to fit the piper cam in. I emailed bar-tek about there schrick 256/276 cam and they said I should gain around 25hp plus, personally I can't see that happening?

Offline Jezza-7

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Re: Camshaft!! Which is best?
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2014, 01:38:00 pm »
i run the schrick 252/276 one, i wouldnt say it was a 25bph increase. 12bhp maybe, if that?


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Re: Camshaft!! Which is best?
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2014, 03:35:33 pm »
I thought it was a bit over the top. How did yours tick over and did it change the day to day driveability much?

Offline sparkz786

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Re: Camshaft!! Which is best?
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2014, 04:00:00 pm »
If i break my g up my 252/276 may be up for sale!

Offline Jezza-7

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Re: Camshaft!! Which is best?
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2014, 12:25:02 am »
Mines fine with drivability. Tick over is fine and ive had it all mapped by ppp.

Offline Merrick

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Re: Camshaft!! Which is best?
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2014, 09:44:46 am »
Great stuff!! I've already had r1 charger, 65mm pulley and chip to suit from jabba. Would I need to have to have a new map or would it be fine?

Offline physicsfool

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Re: Camshaft!! Which is best?
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2014, 09:53:42 am »
Do you have the spec of the chip?

Offline Merrick

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Re: Camshaft!! Which is best?
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2014, 10:17:11 am »
It may be on the paperwork at home as it was done about 12 years ago?

Offline Jezza-7

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Re: Camshaft!! Which is best?
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2014, 11:18:10 am »
Ideally a map would be better to get the best gains out of the mods you have.

I'd look at 250cc injectors, de wedge your throttle body and gt inlet manifold if you havent done already, then map it.

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Re: Camshaft!! Which is best?
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2014, 01:16:01 pm »
I had GT inlet, de wedged TB, piper cam, full blend supercharger (similar to R1 spec) and 65mm pulley with the PPP map. And I got 110BHP at the wheels.

G40 injectors are fine for this spec, only really needed for 160Bhp +

Offline Merrick

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Re: Camshaft!! Which is best?
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2014, 02:40:56 pm »
I've got a gt inlet on its way :-)
I've also been thinking of going down the ported head route?
I've rang jabba and they said they have a chip for this and that's only £90
What do you think?

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Re: Camshaft!! Which is best?
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2014, 03:04:02 pm »
If you had head work and a cam with what mods i said, i reckon you'd be around the 160bhp mark.

If you dont mind spending another £60 on top of £90 you can get it custom mapped for £150.

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Re: Camshaft!! Which is best?
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2014, 03:23:24 pm »
off the shelf chips arent bad, but every car is so different the only real way to go is a custom remap.

So in my opinion, choose your mods, do them all at once and at the same time get a custom remap. if you are driving it as a daily i wouldn't go too wild, too much power and it will become less of a daily and more of a feisty track car needing a subframe and some serious coin spent on it bringing everything else up