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Re: Lysholm supercharcher
« Reply #90 on: September 10, 2013, 09:50:54 pm »
Did you know that the G75 charger has almost double the amount of airflow compared to a G40 charger. Its 1060 ccm3 per revolution and G40 is 566ccm³ per rotation. They reckon a G65 charger would gain 0.3-0.4 bar boost pressure, imagine what the G75 increase is. G75 polo....... would be like having 2 supercharger on it lol


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Re: Lysholm supercharcher
« Reply #91 on: September 10, 2013, 09:57:28 pm »
Did you know that the G75 charger has almost double the amount of airflow compared to a G40 charger. Its 1060 ccm3 per revolution and G40 is 566ccm³ per rotation. They reckon a G65 charger would gain 0.3-0.4 bar boost pressure, imagine what the G75 increase is. G75 polo....... would be like having 2 supercharger on it lol



wow! thats amazing! interesting info :)
that must be so efficient! if a proper company in these modern days of technology put some real hard expensive R&D into the g75 they could make a dam weapon!

are those figures with standard pulley? what is standard for a g75? imagine a 55mm pulley on it lol, probably suck the air intake inside itself

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Re: Lysholm supercharcher
« Reply #93 on: September 10, 2013, 09:59:35 pm »
Standard G60 is 860ccm3 per revolution. To jump 200ccm3 with G75 is quite a lot imo

Not sure on pulley size but i remember someone saying that they did them all on standard pulleys.

Just read that the G75 was 80mm pulley.
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Re: Lysholm supercharcher
« Reply #94 on: September 10, 2013, 10:04:38 pm »
That looks insane! not a bad price for the fabrication involved. is basically a plenum chamber? how would a charged vehicle benefit from it? genuine question as ive only ever seen them on N/A cars. and what is the throttle off?

i can imagine a g75 with anything smaller than standard being pretty unstable tbh. i wonder what scroll bearing they use. cant be a normal one, would wear out pretty fast! normal scrolls are magnesium alloy, i wonder if the g75 is just alloy, meaning heavier/ more load on the scroll bearing

too many questions

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Re: Lysholm supercharcher
« Reply #95 on: September 10, 2013, 10:09:19 pm »
That inlet manifold is designed to take a G60 throttle body on a G40 engine. The G60 throttle bodies are quite bigger.

This is what i was reading from the website: http://www.roettele-racing.de/shop/themes/kategorie/detail.php?artikelid=52&kategorieid=24&source=1&refertype=9

This G75 charger is already in production. This loader can be fitted without modifications to the G60 . Additionally, we have incorporated our experience with the RS G65 loader . Software of the engine control is being considered and is mandatory.
The technology:
The loader is widened by 15 mm on each side , this is accomplished by new housing halves , which has the result that the primary and secondary shafts have to be manufactured with extra length , more counterweight. The loader attachment points in the engine compartment remain original . There will be two different fuel injection intake tract , once a for motorsports with over size between 100 mm and 120 mm for the airbox. Normal for the air filter connection and The displacer is of course also widened on both sides by 15 mm , the Dichtleistennut is extended to the maximum and the displacer is modified or streamlined in the outlet area . The calculated weight of the displacer is 1050 g, and thus has a maximum speed of 15,500 loader U / min, over bearing damage can be expected. Performance and boost growth , we have calculated only theoretically and remain our secret yet , but if it is clear it will be enough . Wait and see .
We are very excited about the first test kilometers , it is of course reported it.
 
 Throughput calculation :
G40 : 566ccm3 per revolution
G60 : 860ccm3 per revolution
G75 calculated : 1060ccm3 per revolution (However, without taking into account the extended sub-channels , is based on only the enlargement of the chambers to 75mm)
So ever makes about 23 % more throughput than the G60 . The impact of the secondary air ducts we'll see.
 
 
News for G75

The speed tests are completed, we have really made ​​the G75 with 16.770Umin on the dynamometer to the limit. Collides with the wall of the displacer is not but still . We are currently building a 6PK 160mm crankshaft , where we can already achieve 16.500Umin and the belt slips no longer guaranteed by a 80mm Pulley . We are currently building a very large boost pressure test system for our Yellow Polo, then the speed and performance tests shall be continued. We are only happy times and go with this charger in the long-term test . This loader we build into a Corrado 8V, so we get sometimes comparative data on the G60 and G65 charger.
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Re: Lysholm supercharcher
« Reply #96 on: September 10, 2013, 10:17:34 pm »
Cheers for posting  :) love reading stuff like that, its good to hear there is development in the Gladers and polos still :) must cost serious amounts to make that

yeah i was looking at pictures and noticed the extra channels, they should add alot of boost

the stuff they sell on the website is awesome!! theyve put lots of money into developing parts for a fairly niche market
cool though

i see, so that manifold and g60 throttle body would be the step up from 51mm throttle

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Re: Lysholm supercharcher
« Reply #97 on: September 10, 2013, 10:24:12 pm »

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Re: Lysholm supercharcher
« Reply #98 on: September 10, 2013, 10:31:47 pm »
james so dose the tb do on the end of the plenum?
and taylor stop becuse u will make me skint lol  ::)
we need to sort out the gearbox thing then g60 all the way ;)

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Re: Lysholm supercharcher
« Reply #99 on: September 10, 2013, 10:37:58 pm »
dw James just looked at more of the pics lol
surely u don't need to have it, but lots more power if u do?
this website is amazing!!
they do a chip for the g60 conversion too!
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Re: Lysholm supercharcher
« Reply #100 on: September 11, 2013, 08:33:57 am »
Never been on there website seriously cool stuff! Theyve got uprated charger seals for €100
Haha ryan your falling for the temptation, all those parts so easiely accessible :P
Also the g75 uses an 80mm pulley, imagine it with 55mm

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Re: Lysholm supercharcher
« Reply #101 on: September 11, 2013, 10:27:15 am »
Must be a reason why they run a 80mm pulley running anything smaller probibly wouldn't do it any good!

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Re: Lysholm supercharcher
« Reply #102 on: September 11, 2013, 11:06:13 am »
Yeah too much load on the scroll bearing, wider the scroll walls the heavier and more load on the scroll bearing. Thats why g40 chargers done mind high revving compared to a g60. So a g75 with its all alloy scroll would weigh a tonn and anything smaller than an 80mm pulley would be too fast, too much stress on the bearing

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Re: Lysholm supercharcher
« Reply #103 on: September 11, 2013, 03:57:19 pm »
Must be a reason why they run a 80mm pulley running anything smaller probibly wouldn't do it any good!

Anything smaller will cause it to run a too high rpm causing bearing failure.

ryan what you mean by this?

james so dose the tb do on the end of the plenum?


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Re: Lysholm supercharcher
« Reply #104 on: September 11, 2013, 03:58:55 pm »
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i see, so that manifold and g60 throttle body would be the step up from 51mm throttle
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Yeah its much bigger. I will show you mine at weekend.